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Message: [QUOTE="Roy Kristiansen, post: 182145, member: 146334"] Hi, Tim! >I think I see your point. You didn't intend to tell EVERYONE the ship was sinking. Just enough to fill the lifeboats, right? That's a valid point since so many didn't see the initial threat as real. They may have been overcautious. That caution and "[i]only women and children[/i]" vs "women and children first" did cause an unnecessary amount of casualties. That sounds to me like one of the lines out of Cameron's film. I'm not sure it's wise to argue semantics and their effect on 2,200 lives based on a film script. In the actual event, I'm sure the "women and children" line was subjected to considerable variation. Scarrott, at Boat 14, gave it a slightly different spin when he testified in London: "Directly I got to my boat I jumped in, saw the plug in, and saw my dropping ladder was ready to be worked at a moment's notice; and then Mr. Wilde, the Chief Officer, came along and said, "All right; take the women and children," and we started taking the women and children. There would be 20 women got into the boat, I should say, when some men tried to rush the boats, foreigners they were, because they could not understand the order which I gave them, and I had to use a bit of persuasion. The only thing I could use was the boat's tiller." Best wishes! Roy [/QUOTE]