Edgar Joseph Meyer

[Pat Cook]

Hi Jan,

It still exists because I found a few businesses there. I also located this, which may be useful to you.

Langham Building

Hope this is of some help,

Best regards,
Cook

 

[Jan C. Nielsen]

Wow! What a great response. Thanks, Pat.

Jan

 

[Pat Cook]

Glad to be of help.

If you ever get a chance to see "Hannah and Her Sisters", I believe Hannah's apartment is in this same building, by the way.

Best regards,
Cook

 

[Jan C. Nielsen]

Does anyone know what happened to Edgar Meyer's daughter? She was barely one year old. I have her baby picture. But, I wanted to mention something about her in my ET article.

This article is turning out to be quite interesting. I've uncovered some extraordinary facts. As soon as I gain permission to publish the photos, and with Phil's permission, I intend to post the article.

 

[Jan C. Nielsen]

Well, I'm putting the finishing touches to "Edgar Joseph Meyer: Lost on Titanic" --- this article promises to be one of my most controversial yet . . . A man hanged by a mob in Atlanta . . . an infamous French Captain -- all figure in to the story. There's a lesson, a moral, about Edgar's death. Too many articles on this site are technical, lackluster, cutesy soap opera-ish, and "safe." Nobody reads them; nobody cares. Some of the authors even apologize, in advance, for being perceived as raising a stink about some accepted principle, or view. That type of research doesn't further anything, but sleep. If any of you are so lucky as to get to read "Edgar Joseph Meyer -- Lost on Titanic," you may find it necessary to drop what you are doing, think about what you have read . . . maybe even shed a couple of tears, in passing. It is a moving, touching story with a deep underlying message.

 

[Michael H. Standart]

>>That type of research doesn't further anything, but sleep<<

A matter of perspective, Jan. Quite a few of us old salts find technical forensics issues quite interesting, and there is nothing that can be called "safe" about the sort of ground that's been explored by David Brown and Parks Stephenson, and which quite a few of us here continue to explore.

Nor can it be said that there's anything "safe" about exploring any aspect of the ever notorious Californian Incident which has been explored and published about by such as George Behe, Dave Bilnitzer, Dave Gittins, Tracy Smith, Erik Wood, and myself. Nobody can publish on that without drawing a helluva lot of flak regardless of what "side" they take. We've all learned this the hard way.

Having said that much, this isn't exactly everybody's cup of tea. While some of us find such research fascinating, others won't, and there's nothing wrong with that. The people involved sometimes tend to vanish from the scene or are remembered only by way of stereotypical mythmaking that goes right back to 1912. The kind of research you've been doing goes beyond that and is just as important.

Come to think of it, all of it is. Good luck with your article.

 

[Jan C. Nielsen]

Fair enough . . . Michael, actually, I think the membership will like this article on Edgar Meyer. He was a man who had so much to live for. I've tried, very hard, to find some sort of lesson, or meaning, for humanity from his death. In a way, Edgar, along with others on the Titanic, kind of remind me of heroes . . . as the renown French sculptor Auguste Rodin portrayed heroes. If you have seen his sculpture, "The Burghers of Calias," it says a lot. If you look at the faces of people pictured on this site, none of them look particularly heroic. Like the "Burghers," they are ordinary people, caught up in events not under their control, making sacrifices, looking confused, scared, doubting and uncertain . . . yet, they are heroes.

 

[Randy Bryan Bigham]

Jan,

Surely you jest when you intimate that you can be controversial

. But never mind - the subject determines the way it's approached. The Meyers have naturally interested me as they were shipboard mates of the Duff Gordons. I've always felt sad for Edgar because of what he wrote in Lucy's autograph book that last night. He seems to have had zest and a sense of humor - and a lot of hopes and dreams.

Congratulations on the completion of your article and I look forward to reading it and learning more about this enigmatic character.

Randy

 

[Michael H. Standart]

>>If you look at the faces of people pictured on this site, none of them look particularly heroic. Like the "Burghers," they are ordinary people, caught up in events not under their control, making sacrifices, looking confused, scared, doubting and uncertain . . . yet, they are heroes.<<

You're right. Quite a few of them are. They didn't start out that way. They just wanted to get to the other side of the pond, but then they got blindsided by the unexpected when things went horribly wrong. When it did, they each accated according to their gifts. When you get down to it, that's really all anyone can ask for.

>>...actually, I think the membership will like this article on Edgar Meyer.<<

Hay, anyone who can get a lynch mob gunning for him can't be all bad!

I'll be looking forward to what you have to say about him.

 

[George Pastarmatzis]

In the first thread above, Lucile's valuables and some clothing appear to have survived. Does anyone else have any other info on these things, except for the silk kimono we have the chance to see in ET? Thanks!

 

[Khgfhdrd]

we might be related.

 

[asm]

I would like to know the familty tree of the Meyer family. I am the last boy in the family and i would like to know if i am related to Edgar Joseph Meyer. please comment me back. please.

 

[17jstewart]

Hi my name is Justin and I just wanted to know about the family tree to so plz reply and tell me about the family.

 

[MikeCaldwell]

As we approach the 109th anniversary of the Titanic sinking, its an honor to share with everyone that the remains of Edgar Joseph Meyers have been located. He was thought to be lost at sea but during a recent search on Find A Grave, his gave site was found and cemetery records confirmed, his body was cremated with the ashes placed into the Meyer mausoleum columbarium at Kensico Cemetery in Valhalla, NY. He is buried next to his mother Harriett. The grave can be viewed on FindAGrave.com, memorial #206060769.

 

[Arun Vajpey]

As we approach the 109th anniversary of the Titanic sinking, its an honor to share with everyone that the remains of Edgar Joseph Meyers have been located. He was thought to be lost at sea but during a recent search on Find A Grave, his gave site was found and cemetery records confirmed

Is this meant to be some form of sick joke? If so, it is in very poor taste.

Edgar Meyer definitely died in the sinking. According to his wife Leila, he persuaded her to get into Lifeboat #6 on which she was rescued, while he stayed behind. Some 35 minutes later, Mahala Douglas, after being helped into Lifeboat #2 by her husband Walter (who also stepped back onto the ship), noticed that he joined three other men all of whom she recognized. They were Archie b***, Clarence Moore and Edgar Meyer. All 4 men were lost in the sinking.

Edgar Meyer's body was not recovered and so there were never any "remains". That mention at the Kensico Cemetery is just a memorial. It definitely confirms that he died on board the Titanic. See below.

Edgar Joseph Meyer (1884-1912) - Find a Grave...

The youngest child of Eugene Meyer and his wife. He had seven siblings in all. He was 28 years old in 1912 and had been married for 2½ years. He and his wife had a year-old daughter. Meyer was a graduate of Cornell University, where he took his degree as a Mechanical Engineer. His discovery of a...

www.findagrave.com

Leila Meyer remarried a stockbroker named Louis Ranger 2 years after the disaster.