Edwardian Expletives


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Ha! Been reading about the anarchists in U.S.(late 19th-early 20th c.) and whoa! All the taboo words of today were utilized back then!

Question- I heard the "F" word originated back in the 14th(?) cen. as a shipping slang term. The job of threading the end of rope though pulleys or whatever rigging they had then. Could see how that became a euphamism for other ...dalliances!
 
>>Question- I heard the "F" word originated back in the 14th(?) cen. as a shipping slang term.<<

I'm sure you could google it up but the information I've seen in some dictionaries is that the F-bomb came from a German word. I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out that an even earlier version started life at sea. There was a lot on the old sailing vessels to give reason to use colourful metephores and a lot of them.
 
>>I doubt anyone was that foul-mouthed back then… even the sailors,<<

I would bet even money on "even the sailors" being a bit foul-mouthed on occasions.
 
>>I would bet even money on "even the sailors" being a bit foul-mouthed on occasions.<<

That's what's known as a sucker bet!
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>>That's what's known as a sucker bet!<<

I think there is a scene in ANTR where Lightoller makes a comment on not betting on a sure thing.

I base my opinion on the subject from four years service in the USN.
 
> I doubt anyone was that foul-mouthed back then

Here's a hilarious example I thought of this morning....within seconds of awakening, for some reason:

April 1863: Reverend James C. Richmond, chaplain, meets with President Lincoln, and assures the president that he, Richmond, is "driving the devil out of Washington."

At the same moment, Miss Rosa Bieleski, a typist with the treasury department and a woman of the highest moral character (she was investigated), receives the latest in a string of obsessive and obscene sexually charged missives. Most of the contents cannot be printed here, even with **** deletions, but a highlight is two separate drawings of a penis, one flaccid and one...not. The erect member is captioned "at the sight of Rosa" and along it is helpfully inscribed "Nine inches long."

Miss Bieleski was not amused.

Turns out that the young lady had, properly, filed a complaint to launch an investigation. And, even better, it turns out that her admirer:

(Fair soft, chaste hillocks rise
and heave with rapture's sighs,
beneath the hazel eyes.
On top are coral fires,
the beacon of all sweet desires.
Note- written while undressed in bed and sheet thrown off. I have touched the verse with the head of the prince of love, a lovely dwarf only nine inches in height)

was Reverend Richmond.

Who was soon expelled from both the Army, and Washington.

In 1866, he was murdered near Poughkeepsie, New York, after a man took offense to Richmond describing his mother and sister as "Black strumpets and whores he'd turn his tongue to."

The evidence saved by Rosa Bieleski during the investigtion, survives at NARA.


Foul mouthery never really changes.

Nor for that matter do perverts who mask their nature behind The Cloth.
 
>>...was Reverend Richmond.<<

Sounds like this guy should have been more concerned with driving the Devil out of his own shorts and leave Washington to it's own devices. Can't say as his bad end comes as much of a shocker. That was a time when do-it-yourself justice had a lot more respectability then it does today as was the concept of defending family honour.
 
The Rev sure an a horny old buzzard. Sending smut to chaste Maidens like that. You just don't talk that way to ladies. Even then they had sexual harassment. But such a blatant case.
 
>>Even then they had sexual harassment.<<

Too a point. They didn't call it that but defending the honour of a lady was taken very seriously. Come to think of, so was the notion that a man of the cloth should be an exempler of the virtues he called on his congregation to embrace.

I wonder what ever happened to the chap who blew him away.
 
>I wonder what ever happened to the chap who blew him away.

Punched him to death.

Was also reading a scathing letter, and legal case, from below the Mason-Dixon line involving a Reverend who was caught...fornicating....with a slave belonging to the family who was hosting him.
 
So whatever happened to Mr. Lewis? Given the provocation, I can't see any court of the time convicting him of anything more serious then leaving the "trash" on the sidewalk.
 
Sounds to me that Reverend Richmond was looking for trouble along with getting laid and seems he found both. I wonder what made him the way he was? Just him being an ornery horny toad or something else. Guess we'll never know.

As for Mr. Lewis he might of got called up or gone to fight in the Civil War and been killed.
 
>>Just him being an ornery horny toad or something else.<<

That and being stupidly indescreet in a day and age when people took an unpleasant notice of such things.
 
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