Hilda Jaschke

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I'm looking for a picture of little Eino Panula!
People magazine had a picture of the family in last weeks magazine but I can't fin it online! Can anyone help!
 
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Danger...danger Will Robinson!!!!!!!
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If a photo of this unfortunate child appeared in People Magazine, you can bet that a copyright still applies. As such, it would be inappropriate to post the photo here without the copyright holder's permission. Having said that much, if somebody has that photo, one could always scan it and send it in an e-mail to Hilda.
 
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Melissa Negri

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Hilda,

I just looked up the pic that is listed in the issue of People that the article appears in. In the caption, it states that the pic was taken prior to Eino's birth. When I look real closely at the pic it appears that Maria is pregnant, so it may be Eino that she is carrying, but he is not one of the children present in the photo.

Hope that helps. : )

Melissa : )
 
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ulla appelsin

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I am a Finnish journalist and I am trying to find more material on the family Panula, mother Maria and her five sons, youngest of which was Eino, Titanic's "unknown child. They all died in Titanic. Does anyone know anything about them? Have you read any interesting books/interviews/newspaper stories in which this family has been mentioned? Do you happen to have any Finnish relatives in the USA who would know more about them?
I would really appreciate any help I could get!
You can write me directly.
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Carol Goroff

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Melissa,

Who were the children photographed in the People article? What issue?

This query is two years late, but I just joined this message board.

Carol Goodwin Goroff
 
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I am a relative of Eino Panula, and i have lots of family photos. I have a pic of a pregnant Maija(Maria's birth name), her husband, and one of their two daughters, who both died young, circa 1903, and a pic of Eino after his christening in 1911, but they are in Canada, and i am in Finland. I will send for them, and post them when i get them.
 
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Thanks so much. I'm quite eager to see the children. (Hildur, in English, you are allowed to capitalize the first person, in Hungary they don't capitalize either
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You are doing EXCELLENT! I always wonder how other countries teach their students so well! If I'd be back home, honestly, I could not speak it at all, that's just the truth.
 
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I am a direct descendent of Eino Viljami Panula. We have always known of the disaster, and a few years ago, my grandma, Magda was asked to supply DNA for help to discover the unknown child's name.
 
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Hilder, since Eino was a 13 month old toddler at the time of his death, unless his was incredibly precocious to the point of making medical history, there is no way he could have fathered any children. Thus, there is no way you could be directly decended from him.
 
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his mother's sister is my grandma's grandma, and that is the closest descendents there is in the whole world related to Eino, my mum said we are basically directly.
 
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Perhaps this has been mentioned in some other thread, but if not: You can only be a descendent to someone who had children. Eino is not your ancestor, nor your great grandfather. He is just related to you.

Had your grandmother's mother, or so, been a daughter of Eino, he would have been your ancestor and thus you would have been his descendent.

Best regards,
Maritha the genealogy freak as well as Titanic freak
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Is this right?

Eino's mother and your great-great grandmother were sisters.

So, Eino and your great-grandmother (or great-grandfather) were first cousins.

Eino dies at thirteen months old, so he did not have children. Since children descend from their parents, and the parents from their parents. (they make up the branches on the family tree), Eino did not have any descendants. (No branches come after his name)

Meanwhile, your great-grandparent had a child (your grand-mother) who had a child (your father or mother) who had a child (you)

You and Eino are descended from your great-great-great grandparents and their ancestors (They are the ancestors you and he have in common), but you are not descended from Eino.

My brothers and I are descended from my parents.
My brothers' children are descended from my parents;
but they are not descended from me.

(I think as their aunt, I am their 'co-lateral ancestor', along with my own aunts and uncles; but I've probably got that mixed up. Maybe, from my youngest niece's place on the tree, my parents - as their common grandparents - are the co-lateral ancestors of her and her first cousins. Genealogy confuses me.)
 
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So as to clear that People magazine picture of the"unknown child" it is NOT Eino, but his sister Emma Iida, aged 2, with their father Juha and five-months- pregnant mother, Maija. Emma and the baby (Lyydia) who Maija is carrying both died young. Emma died in 1910 and the baby (Lyydia) died at 6 months of age. Just so everyone knows.
 

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