Emily Richards and sons

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Arun Vajpey

Arun Vajpey

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Sorry to revive such an old thread, but after accepting the more likely probability that Anna Hamalainen and her baby son Wiljo were rescued on Lifeboat #10 rather than #4, I have been checking into other 2nd class survivors whose lifeboats were uncertain. PE-K has consistently argued that in his opinion no Second Class survivor was rescued on any forward lifeboat, but I find that opinion to be rather too fixed. For instance, there is no doubt that William Mellors was rescued on Collapsible A but as that lifeboat floated free rather than being launched and Mellors had to swim to reach it, it cannot be used as evidence against PE-K's view.

However, Emily Richards and her two children Sibley and William provide better evidence that they were indeed rescued on Lifeboat #4. Although no lifeboat is specifically mentioned in their ET bios, the introductory note on Lifeboat #4 itself indicates that they were in fact on that boat (but their names are curiously missing in the list that follows). Emily said that her two sons, her mother Eliza Hocking and herself were "pushed through a window" into the lifeboat; that could only have been Lifeboat #4. Further, Emily Richards said that they picked up seven more men out of the water - again true for Lifeboat #4.
 
Seumas

Seumas

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Good post Arun.

I agree that the idea that no second class survivors boarded any forward lifeboat is hard to believe. With a number of third class survivors boarding forward boats, then second class passengers must have been in and around that part of the boat deck as well.
 
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Arun Vajpey

Arun Vajpey

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I agree that the idea that no second class survivors boarded any forward lifeboat is hard to believe. With a number of third class survivors boarding forward boats, then second class passengers must have been in and around that part of the boat deck as well.
I agree. I have respect for PE-K but do not agree about his view that no one in Second Class got forward at all, let alone got saved on lifeboats. His opinion is logical in the sense that whereas there were Third Class passengers at both bow and stern sections, all Second Class passengers were in the stern part. BUT, we have to consider that after the impact it took the Titanic 2 hours and 40 minutes to sink and in that period, most passengers and crew came up to the boat deck albeit at different times. Depending on their state of mind, travel experience etc, once on the boat deck they need not necessarily have confined themselves to "their" part of the ship.

Thus, I believe that Emily Richards, her mother and two children, while from Second Class, got forward for whatever reason and were eventually saved on Lifeboat #4. But from other evidence I agree that the Hamalainens were likely on board Lifeboat #10, something which Anna Hamalainen reportedly even told a Detroit newspaper.
 
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