Exploring the wreck


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bob hudson

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Does anyone know if Bob Ballard (or any subsequent explorer) has explored all the corridors buried in the muck?
 
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Nope. The most extensive internal exploration of the wreck was accomplished by an expedition sponsored by James Cameron in August to September 2001. If you wish to read Ken Marshall's report on what he saw there, click on Cunard-White Star Research Forum then scroll down to and click on "James Cameron’s Titanic Expedition 2001:What We Saw On and Inside the Wreck by Ken Marschall"

Given the deteriorating condition of hte ship, it is extremely unlikely that the entire wreck will ever be explored.
 
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Maybe I should start a new thread for this, but I'm conscious that there was a notice a while back asking people to minimize new threads if possible. Anyway, I came across this article a few days ago, and wondered if folks had any further information on this topic. Is the wreck really deteriorating at a faster rate than previously expected? And is there really anything to the contention that exploration of the site is contributing to that deterioration? I figure if anybody's got the info. on this, it's somebody around here.

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Fred


Yahoo! News Photos - Nature, Visitors Taking Toll on Titanic
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fred pelka

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I just found the appropriate thread for this in the Salvage, Exploration... section. Sorry to clutter things up.

Fred
 
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Fred, you might want to give some consideration to mettalurgist Tim Foecke's opinion which is in the What's Next For The Wreck thread dated 10 August 2003;

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In the respect that a microbiologist, an archeologist, and a naval officer are giving opinions regarding the collapse of the wreck, and that it has nothing new in the story.

Yes, the wreck is collapsing, and once all the members reach a certain slenderness, there will be an exponential increase in gross collapse events. Then things will calm down after the next 25-40 years after most of the potential energy is gone with collapsing, and the debris pile will slowly rust into iron ore over the next century or so.

Roy says that he sees lots more rusticles, and claims it is rusting at 600 pounds per day. Heck, if you just take the likely surface area of the steel that is exposed to sea water, and use the textbook corrosion rate of mild steel in sea water (o.1 mils per day), you get about 1000 lbs per day. Nothing new here. And Roy has never proven that the corrosion rate is increasing, that the bacteria concentration is increasing, or that they are eating the ship. Rusticles form and fall off all the time. Thats where you get the floc piles along the sides of the hull. He has no way of knowing, from 3 glimpses over 7 years, whether his data means anything or not.

The ship is progressing into oblivion in just the way that a metallurgist and mechanical engineer would tell you it would.

The only thing of interest in the article was the observation of all the beer bottles from one of the RMSTI's officer's son's band on one of the expeditions. Glad someone finally pointed it out, even if he didn't get the source right.

Just some food for thought and a good reason from a qualified specialist in the field to treat the media hype with some skepticism. For context, you can access the thread HERE.
 
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Are there any plans to bring up any significant parts of the wreck (i.e. the foremast where the look-out first spotted the iceburg), to preserve it, and to use it as a lasting memorial to all those poor soles who lost their lives in the sinking, before she slowly and gracefully disappears for good? I am aware of a two ton chunk which was brought up a number of years ago.
 
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Not that I'm aware of. The only outfit that can do it legally is RMS Titanic Inc. and they're not talking. Somehow though, I don't think anyone's going to bother with the foremast. What's left of it is just too far gone.
 
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