Factual Inconsistency1st Class Women and Children Who Perished


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One discrepancy that I noticed about James Cameron's version--a version that he claimed would be as authentic as possible--shows the "ghosts" of several 1st class women and at least one 1st class child (about 12 or 13) who supposedly died in the disaster.

Let's set this straight: there were four (4) 1st class women (Isham, Strauss, Evans, and Allison) and one 1st class child (Helen Louraine Allison, who was 2), making the total as five (5) 1st class females , and one (1) child who perished in the disaster.

Before anyone says anything, I realize that he would defend himself by saying that the passenger list is incomplete and inconsistent, so it is possible that there were more 1st class women and children there than those documented. But possible does not make fact. Over the years, several scholars have studied the list and have accounted for these discrepancies, and in the end, every single source comes up with the same total: 4 women and one child (5 females).

Is it possible that, like Rose, all of these may have been survivors who had died later, only to return in spirit to the their loved ones and friends at the wreck? It's possible, but the way that very last scene was handled, the specific conditions are either vague or ambiguous at best, leaving us to be confronted with an apparent falsehood.

What are your thoughts on this?

--Mark (Hoppy)
 

Wesley Burton

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Notice there were ghosts from all places. Are you refering to that girl who was standing with her father behind her. She was in 3rd class. I havent noticed any other girls of that age.
 
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On the boat deck level, overlooking the stairs. It appeared like she was wearing an elegant dress, so that's what gave me the impression that she was 1st class. Also, if you look very closely, that is the same girl who was walking on the boat deck behind Rose while Rose was talking with Jack and looking at his drawings. Aside from Jack, who was invited, there would be no 3rd class on the boat deck. The girl could have been 2nd class, but her presence as a "ghost of the dead" would still contradict fact, ass no 2nd class children perished.
 
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