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Paul Lee

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More little nuggets from Lloyd's List:

On April 20th, the Portsmouth was at 41 48N, 49 20 W and "passed through quantity of wreckage, apprently not long in the water; cabin fittings and white painted woodwork and teak, one cabin sofa, upholstered and one lifebelt, white, hardly discoloured. Dense fog at time"

April 22nd, liner Cestrian, at 41 N, 49 12 W to 41 N, 49 34 W, "passed deck fittings, chairs, beddings and other wreckage from Titanic"

German bank (?) steamer Clio reported on May 6th, at 41 25N, 41 43 W (NB: I may have transcribed these numbers incorrectly - the writing is difficult to read in places!): "saw an iceberg which the captain thinks is the same that sank the Titanic. It was 130 feet high and bore appearances of having been run into, one end being broken. It was surrounded by a steamer's saloon fittings of white painted wood and mahogany, plush cushions, deck chairs, fancy handbags and innumerable small pieces of wreckage. The captain does not report having seen any bodes."

April 25th, the German ship Graf Waldersee from Hamburg via Halifax reported, between positions 41 48N, 47 10 W to 41 51N, 49 52W "passed 8 icebergs; also in about same position, passed a quantity of wreckage including life buoys, chairs and pieces of wood believed from sunken Titanic"

April 27th- the Sagamore from Liverpool to Boston, in 41 21N, 49 36W, saw "two dead bodies with life belts on, several deck chairs, racks etc., also a quantity of painted woodwork"

- and then theres the possible report of Collapsible B, in another thread.

Best wishes

Paul

 

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I also remember reading that a large section of the bridge was seen floating around. I don't recall where I read it, it could have been in either 'Discovery' by Ballard or the Swedish book 'Titanic' by Clas-Göran Wetterholm (who participated in some of RMS Titanic Inc's expeditions). Does someone else know more about it?
 

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I'll have to check, Paul, but it's interesting that the Portsmouth saw a 'cabin sofa' - I seem to recall Lowe mentioning something similar in one of his affidavits, when he discussed the debris he saw.
 

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Hi paul you stated in this post that the sagamore from liverpool found 2 remaining bodies from titanic,I'm just wondering wether you have any idea of who they were ?? I have tried to look this up but not having any luck .Many thanks x
 

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Interesting that they did not make an attempt to recover the corpses. I suppose the stopping of a ship and taking time to do so would have not been warranted by company schedules at the time.
 
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After the surface break up there must have been a lot of interior furnishings ejected; such as furniture, paneling, tables, etc. Was this ever recovered and either saved or re-used? I recall seeing one photo long ago of a small vessel that had picked up some dining chairs. If nothing else, would that have been done to avoid danger of larger debris floating in ship's paths? Thanks in advance, LOVE finding this site!
 
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After the surface break up there must have been a lot of interior furnishings ejected; such as furniture, paneling, tables, etc. Was this ever recovered and either saved or re-used? I recall seeing one photo long ago of a small vessel that had picked up some dining chairs. If nothing else, would that have been done to avoid danger of larger debris floating in ship's paths? Thanks in advance, LOVE finding this site!
Yes, there was surface debris. Cork, which insulates the uptakes, The Barber shop's Pole, pieces of wood, most notably from the Aft or Forward Grand Staircase. And metal, from the middle of the ship where she broke apart. Even deckchairs and tables, from when they were thrown overboard to function as makeshift rafts. The place of Titanic's foundering was littered with debris.
 

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There were some debris of wood was from the two grand staircases, the others were from trunks, deck chairs, collapsibles A and B, wood from cabins, cloths, bodys and lifejackets, I hope this helps you!
 
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Here is an article about the bodies

Talks about the next several months. It also has a section that talks of other ships who saw wreckage. What I found interesting in the article was that people could see paint from the Titanic on the ice in some parts.
Thank you very much; terrific information in the link you provided much of which I had not seen. I didn't realize so many of the deceased were in the water for so long; I had thought most were picked up within days. Makes the tragedy even more sad in so many ways.
 

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Yes, there was surface debris. Cork, which insulates the uptakes, The Barber shop's Pole, pieces of wood, most notably from the Aft or Forward Grand Staircase. And metal, from the middle of the ship where she broke apart. Even deckchairs and tables, from when they were thrown overboard to function as makeshift rafts. The place of Titanic's foundering was littered with debris.
Many thanks for your reply; especially regarding the grand staircase. I always figured any portions found from it were from the rear one located near the break up section. As far as I understand the forward staircase went down intact; though I can't understand how it has all disappeared when other parts of delicate wood which were also slowly submerged in the forward sections have survived.
 
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Yes, there was surface debris. Cork, which insulates the uptakes, The Barber shop's Pole, pieces of wood, most notably from the Aft or Forward Grand Staircase. And metal, from the middle of the ship where she broke apart. Even deckchairs and tables, from when they were thrown overboard to function as makeshift rafts. The place of Titanic's foundering was littered with debris.
Hi Cam, I wondered where the cork came from...in the Violet Jessup biography (Brittanic chapter)she mentions swallowing a lot of cork which I believe she said was insulation.
 
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Cam Houseman

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Many thanks for your reply; especially regarding the grand staircase. I always figured any portions found from it were from the rear one located near the break up section. As far as I understand the forward staircase went down intact; though I can't understand how it has all disappeared when other parts of delicate wood which were also slowly submerged in the forward sections have survived.
Absolutely no Problem, David. I love helping people. I agree. yeah, it could either be the Grand Staircase rising up, and that's why we can't find it, or the Aft Staircase when she broke up. Maybe the Forward Grand Staircase floated away nearby, then lost buoyancy, and sank?
 
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Absolutely no Problem, David. I love helping people. I agree. yeah, it could either be the Grand Staircase rising up, and that's why we can't find it, or the Aft Staircase when she broke up. Maybe the Forward Grand Staircase floated away nearby, then lost buoyancy, and sank?

It's time this 'the staircase floated out' nonsense is put to bed once and for all. Just because a look-a-like film set broke free, it doesn't mean that the real staircase did. Also- and this is fundamental I think- 'the staircase' was actually hundreds of individual wooden pieces, and dozens of metal ones. It almost certainly broke up in situ and was dispersed far and wide within the bow section, probbaly mostly aft. Some of it was definitely ejected from the open end of the bow section on bottom impact because ballustrades have been seen there under the boiler pipes, along with the candelabra from the D deck landing.
 
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Some of it was definitely ejected from the open end of the bow section on bottom impact because ballustrades have been seen there under the boiler pipes, along with the candelabra from the D deck landing.

Do you know where the details about the balustrades under the boiler pipes comes from? I can not remember having seen it.
Yes D Deck candelabra is in the debris field aft of the break area of the bow.

There was a lot of surface debris floating in the water after the sinking from all different parts of the ship and not only from the break up area. Parts of the (wooden) bridge were floating around as well as pillars from the forward grand staircase (one pillar was from D Deck landing which is rectangular) as well parts from cabins and furniture.
One of the most famous parts is a wood panel from the door frame of 1st class lounge on which in the 1997 movie Rose (Kate Winslet) climbed on it.
 
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