Forward Grand Staircase at E-deck questions


I regularly consult the deck plans on E. Titanica
when I'm navigating my role-playing game character about the ship.
I've noted that the layout of the forward Grand Staircase at E-deck is different than it's layout from D-deck on up to the Boat Deck level. Why was that?
What did the forward Grand Staircase look like at E-deck? Was it fancy dan or utilitarian in appearance?
Thanks in advance for any help.

Richard K.
 
Richard,
while no photos of the grand staircase at E-deck are known to exist, a somewhat obscured view can be seen in most of the D-deck pictures of Olympic's GSC. The stairs leading to the landing had the gilt wrought iron railings like the rest of the staircase. I've no reason to believe that the descending stairs (a single width staircase, not a sweeping one like the other levels) didn't also have the matching baulistrades, and probably belayed with the same type of newel posts as seen elsewhere. It is also a guess that the tiles on the E-deck landing were the same type as found on the Boat, A, B and C decks. That's the way I portrayed it when building my 1/350 plastic model.

Regards,
Dan
 
The PC game Titanic, by Cyberflix, portrays the grand staircase on E deck as being enclosed. The player must descend to D deck, the reception area, and then turn 180 degree to find a door that leads down a flight of stairs to a landing and then turns 90 degrees left to descend a second flight to another door which opens to E deck.
The idea of doors at the top and bottom of the stairs to E deck make sense because of the third class passenger traffic that used E deck as a major thoughrofare between bow and stern cabins.

Yuri Singleton
 
Yes, however there were no doors at the top or bottom of the E-deck stairs, as shown in the Cyberflix pc game. The game's scenery is good, but not devoid of errors.
At the bottom, port side of the E-deck landing's walls of Titanic, the access door to "Scotland Road" was more than likely locked at all times, used probably only by stewards or authorized crew, who then would lock the door behind them.
To starboard, the foyer led to first class E-deck cabins. Bulkheads at this deck naturally separated first and third class.

Regards,
Dan
 
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Ben Thomas Sebastian Holme

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Hey Dan,
Stupid question, but you weren't at Tonbridge School, England were you?
Ben
 
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Ben Thomas Sebastian Holme

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Dan,
Ignore my last question!!
I have read about you in the introduction section!
 
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Martin Dall

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I am doing research at school on the Titanic, and I would like to know what the Grand Staircase at E Deck was like- was it just the same as the ones on A, B, and C Deck?- or was it less luxurious? Please reply if you know.

Thankyou,

Martin
 
Martin,
if you look above, I already answered your question - no pictures exist of the entire stairs, but based on plans and D-deck pictures looking down the well, you can make a somewhat educated guess at the layout.
Good luck on your school project!
 
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Daniel Rosenshine

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The stairs on E deck although did not finish in the same 'fan' shape landing, were still decorated the same as on all the decks above. The staircase was as lavish for all it's landings, even to F deck, the Turkish bath area, where it finished. I'm not sure about the surrounding paneling; I presume it was somewhat simpler. But it would have still had the letters announcing E deck ... F deck ... and the wall of the stairs from D to E deck would have still featured a painting with ornate paneling surrounding it.

Daniel.
 
With a little time and patience, I might be able to apply the research gathered over the years and post a rendering of the E-deck stairs and landing sometime this winter.

Thoughts?
 
In the Titanic 1997 movie it portrayed the bottom on E-deck of the elevators behind the staircase. I noticed the paneling was white and it was more simple but still very elegant. It also showed the gold letters reading "E DECK". I guess maybe the white paneling flowed into the first-class corridors.The wall facing the stairs may have been oak with the gold letters of the deck level. The tile pattern probably would have been the same with a elaborate carpet running down the corridor.The balustrades would all be the same in keeping with staircase and with those wonderful chanderlairs.But this is just my educated guess. Ken Marshall has done a depiction of the E-deck staircase foyer in "Inside the Titanic" on pg 25.My guess evolves around that idea.What ever it was like it must of been grand since it is first-class. The Grand staircase was the center showpeice.Any thoughts.

Regards Nigel Bryant
 
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Daniel Rosenshine

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I highly doubt that the 1997 Cameron rendering of the Titanic was historically accurate, it was more likely made that way to fit the movie. As you can see the elevator landing is freely opened to crew areas etc. There would have been a wall there and first class would have been closed off from those areas. Right behind where the wall should have been was 'Scotland Road' a rather vital passage for crew and third class. If you listen to what Andrews told Rose, you can not follow it on the plans. So, the depiction of the staircase in the movie is inaccurate.

Daniel.
 
To Thomas
Ken Marshall's rendering of his depiction is very interesting it shows the whole grand staircase from Boat-deck to E-deck.As the E-Deck foyer is the main focus I will try to explain it to you as best I can.His depiction has the whole foyer done up in oak the same as the other decks and with the use of the same tiles. He has the letters in reading "E-DECK" on the wall facing the stairs.
On the center balustrade he has put a cheurb.The stairs then disappear down to the F-DECK landing which I can just pick out that the decor has white paneling. If you want to see it just find "INSIDE THE TITANIC" and find pg 25 . It is a giant cutaway book, illustrated by Ken Marshall and text written by Hugh Brewster.It is more of a children book,but I choose it because he has done a excellent job depicting the ship's interiors.
I hope this helps.
Regards Nigel Bryant
 
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