Thanks for the confirmation Phil. I knew you would come through! Any idea who was in charge of the funeral arrangements, and talking with the investigation officer? I wouldn't think that Emily would have been much in the mood to um... "deal" with it.
P.S.--If you mean which family member was in charge, that probably was his sister, Emily Lathrop. His ex-wife had remarried by that time and his son Danny was still a teenager. By the way, Danny was adopted and there is quite a story about who his natural mother may have been! More to come.
Brian. FWIW. I came across a distant Brereton connection. (sisters sons wifes dad.)What I am not positive of is if this was left in his will, or just the next occupants, but here's what was said. "Harry went to Long Beach from Tulsa in 1920 and designed and built his home at 3361 E. Ocean Blvd. After his death the home was a convent for the Carmelite Catholic nuns for some 40 years ,starting in 12/1949 after the death of his wife Edna."
Will keep searching though.
I recently saw an original of the passenger listing for the second voyage of the Olympic. Amongst the passengers was Thomas Andrews and a certain George A. Brereton. Would this be the same George Andrew Brereton (a.k.a. George Arthur Brayton / Bradley) who sailed on the first voyage of the Titanic?
Yeah, that's him. He continued to sail the seas for many years plying his trade. In fact, it was on one of the subsequent trips that he met his second wife. Her parents were sending her and her sisters to England in hopes that she'd find a "royal" to marry. Instead she found Brereton. But he pretended to be a blue-blood and on his son's death certificate it lists the father as "Sir George Brereton." What a hoot!
Thanks for confirming that. If his "trade" was gambling and swindling who was he hoping to swindle on the crossing? I'm aware he swindled fellow survivor Stengel several weeks after the sinking in a horse racing scam. Was Stengel also his intended victim on the crossing?
What happened to his second wife? Did she die before Brereton shot himself or did she see the light and do a runner?
Hey Boz, am sure Brereton was swindling whoever he could on the trans-Atlantic crossings.
Hazel and George Brereton had a stormy relationship. Hazel couldn't have children so they adopted one son, Danny, who was said to be the out-of-wedlock child of a well-known movie star. Danny didn't turn out to be a gambler but he was a very unsavory character. He died a year before his mother and those responsible for the estate were reluctant to even enter his house, afraid of what they might find.
Hazel and George finally divorced and Hazel then married a Maytag heir and lived to be a very old woman. She wasn't such a nice little trick herself and Mike Herbold has uncovered some information that even suggests criminal activity on her part.
She and Brereton may have been well suited for one another. She was a very unpleasant looking woman--as George Behe once remarked when I showed him a photo of her--"looks like she was dying of Tuberculosis."
... and speaking of George Behe, he has a two-part article on the gamblers in the Titanic Commutator. It is in two of the 1982 issues, but I can't remember which ones. I don't have the original issues just yet, but I hope to really soon!
I do have a photocopy of the article and it is excellent, well worth the read as it gives an excellent insight into the life of a gambler, as well as giving a good account of the gamblers on the Titanic.
Also you might want to visit this past thread on ET:
For many years, I was always interested to learn just how many Titanic survivors chose to sail on the Olympic, Titanic's sister ship. A good number of surviving Titanic crew served aboard the Olympic afterward, and some even joined the Britannic but how many passengers made this brave decision...
It is about Titanic-connected people who traveled on the Olympic, and there's some gambler info as well. This is what I said in one of my posts:
"He actually traveled under his real name; George A. Brereton, arriving on the Olympic in N.Y. on 16 Aug. 1911!"
The gambler info I posted on that thread however might make more sense once you have acquainted yourself with George's article.
PS. I think some 1982 Commutators might appear on ebay soon. There are two sellers that have have been listing issues. One has been listing them since 1972 and is up to 1981 at the moment, and the other has been listing them since the 90's and working back into the 80's.
I have that copy of the Commutator with George's article on the gamblers. It was the first issue of the journal I got after I joined THS at the age of 13! I read that story over and over and can still recall the dramatic sketch of Rene Harris that accompanied it. The issue is a bit worn and torn but I've saved it in hopes that I can have George, now a good friend, sign it for me someday (if we ever meet!)
Many thanks for your help, Phil and Daniel. It never ceases to amaze me how people become what they are, in the case of Brereton a liar, thief and cheat. He's not even a likeable rogue although I still feel a bit sorry for him, having lost his son to TB and his first wife to suicide.
It's interesting how his experiences on the Titanic did not seem to change his way of life at all. I'd have thought he would have seen it as an opportunity to make amends and become a decent bloke but alas, the opportunity of making easy money at the expense of someone else was too good to miss.
I was amused by the story of Brereton posing as royalty. How mad is that? Did Hazel, his second wife, actually marry him because she thought he was blue blood? From how you describe her she doesn't sound the gullible type. If he was maintaining he was a "Sir" up until at least the time of his son's death, how on Earth did he keep up this charade for so long?
I think that Hazel knew all along that Brereton was no blue-blood. After all, he was born in the United States and had a sister and several brothers that always lived nearby in California. But together, George and Hazel fooled the rest of Hazel's family--when I located the relatives a few years ago they were shocked to find out George was born and raised in the USA. He had ALWAYS spoken to them with a British accent! And apparently Hazel never divulged the truth even after divorcing him. Maybe she wanted Danny to think of himself as a blue-blood. For sure, the one word summing up Brereton's life is "sham."
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