German Liners HamburgAmerica Line

[Steve Anderson]

To start a new thread on the topic of the various German Liners of the Hamburg-America Line

Here is an image of the Deutschland having just completed her Maiden Voyage Blue Riband Run

Deutschland
Hamburg-America Line
Builders: Vulcan, Stettin
684 X 67.3 ft 16,502 GRT

Launched: January 10, 1900

Maiden Voyage: June 25, 1900 Hamburg to New York on which she won the "Blue Riband"

Sept, 1911: Named changed to "Victoria Luise"

Aug, 1914: fitted out as German Auxiliary cruiser, not used during the war.

1919: The only pre-war large liner to remain under German Ownership.

1921: after a post-war refit she was renamed again as the "Hansa" and had two of her funnels removed.

1925: scrapped at the Vulcan shipyard in Hamburg

 

[Daniel Ehlers]

Interesting thought... On April 14, 1912, didn't the Deutschland need a towing, which Titanic refused? How is this possible if Deutschland was already renamed Victoria Luise?

 

[Jim Kalafus]

I believe that the Deutschland in question was a tanker.

 

[Shelley Dziedzic]

Nice to see the Deutschland- was she the first to win the Blue Riband? I know there is an enamel portrait medallion of her on the Hale Trophy. Still- there is something a little odd-looking about that gap between the pairs of funnels.

 

[Jim Kalafus]

Here is a large advertising litho I bought in NYC while researching the Slocum Walking Tour a while back. This measures about 4 feet long, is marvellously detailed, and I have no idea which liner it shows.

 

[Mark Baber]

Wonderful ad, Jim!

As far as what ship it shows, the only two candidates appear to be Columbia and Augusta Victoria; they seem to have been the only Hapag liners with three funnels and three masts. Columbia was in Hapag service 1889-1898 and 1899-1904. Augusta Victoria was in service with three masts 1889-1896; she was lengthened, reduced to two masts and renamed Auguste Victoria before returning to service in 1897.

Sources: Bonsor's North Atlantic Seaway; Haws' Merchant Fleets in Profile, Vol. 4; Hansen's Passenger Liners from Germany, 1916-1990.

 

[Jeremy Lee]

I didn't know HAPAG was called the Hamburg American Packet Company!

Anyone knows when the name was changed to Hamburg American Line?

Or was it used simultaneously?

 

[Noel F. Jones]

HAPAG is acronymic for Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft. The company is still extant as Hapag-Lloyd, having merged with Norddeutscher-Lloyd in 1970

If it works, this:

http://www.hlag.com/en/group/1647.html

will tell you more.

Noel

 

[Jeremy Lee]

Thanks Noel!

Hapag-Lloyd operates here in Singapore as container vessels.....

 

[Marcin Ziolkowski]

Hi

Does anybody know what "Fruhstuckraum" (1st class) was for? I can't see any galley in this saloon area, so they rather didn't serve breakfast (fruhstuck) or even any other simpler meals. But it seems to be important room becouse it's bigger then 2nd class smoking room. Have you any ideas about?
It refers to S/S Deutschland

 

[Bob Godfrey]

Marcin, I'm not familiar with the layout of the Deutschland, but on many liners you will find that areas on the upper decks where light meals could be served were close to a pantry, which was in turn connected by a service shaft to the main kitchen area on a lower deck.