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At the Mercado in Florida they have a replica Grand Staircase, and they say it is the exact size as the original. But if you look at some pictures of it you can tell is about 3/4 the size. Especially if you compare it with James Cameron's version he built for the movie. What do you think?

Stefan
 

Bill Sauder

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Stefan:

The Grand Stair Case is smaller in person than you might think. Cameron found the original dimensions too small for a good show, so he increased the size by about 10% in some directions to give the impression of additional spaciousness.

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Hi Bill I didn't realize james cameron's version was bigger but it still seams smaller in pictures of the original.
 

Jamie Bryant

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I noticed that the actual stairs of the Grand Staircase in Cameron's film are slightly wider than they are in library photos.
 
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jaime ryan neeley

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can anyone tell me what is the actual size of the stairs??? thanks
 

Nigel Bryant

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Hi Jaime,

According to the The Shipbuilder (pg 69- passenger accomondation) it states:

"The forward main staircase is situated between the first and second funnels from forward, and extends from the middle to the boat decks, with large entrance halls at each level . It is over 60 ft in height and 16 ft wide."

Hope this helps,

Nigel
 

Jeremy Lee

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What about the aft 1st Class staircase? I know it is 2 decks shorter but is the height and width the same as the forward one?
 
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Matt Endacott

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from the copy of the First Class Accommodation Map i have - the size of the Grand Staircase compared to that of the Aft Staircase is quite larger, considering the Grand Staircase had 3 elevators and a larger foyer area.
Really, the Aft Staircase would not have been used as much as the Grand, due to the fact there was no access to the Boat Deck from it.
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Matt.
 

Dan Cherry

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It incorporated the same design, with smaller foyers. The dome topping the staircase was round, whereas the forward staircase was oval-shaped. The aft GSC had a clock set in a simple square design, and only served three decks.
 
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Brian R Peterson

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There are plenty of Aft Grand Staircase photos floating about, some Olympic some Titanic. There are however, no known photos of the Titanic's Forward Grand Staircase, all of the images of that area like so many other First Class areas attributed to the Titanic are actually of the Olympic.

Best Regards,

Brian
 
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Hi Brian!

You wrote: There are plenty of Aft Grand Staircase photos floating about, some Olympic some Titanic

Can you point to any specific Titanic photos?

Thanks.

Best regards,

Mark.
 

Jeremy Lee

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>>There are plenty of Aft Grand Staircase photos floating about, some Olympic some Titanic. There are however, no known photos of the Titanic's Forward Grand Staircase<<
Odd, isn't it, I though the forward Grand Staircase would draw all the attention away from the aft one, yet no known picture survives today.
 

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Personally, I don't know of any GSC pictures from Titanic, fore or aft. If Titanic's GSC was identical to Olympic's, in the day and age where photographs were not freely taken like today, there would be little reason to make images. The photographs that we do have specifically of Titanic's interiors are those areas that differed enough from Olympic to warrant photographing - the Cafe Parisian, the B-deck suites, to name a few. Besides, H&W and the White Star Line likely presumed they would have time to document on film the second Olympic-class sister after her return leg of her maiden voyage.
Thankfully, enough cross-channel passengers and newspapers helped fill in portions of the Titanic photo record, and the 2001 expedition to the wreck's interiors has also done a great deal in bringing a more complete record of how Titanic was and was not like her older sister.
 
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Brian R Peterson

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Hi Jeremy,

While the Titanic's Forward GSC was rumored to be uncompleted or rather plain if it was, the grandiose Forward GSC clock on the Olympic would have drawn more attention of photographers, and as the Titanic was reputed as "The Most Luxurious Ship in the World" the highly ornate Olympic clock being identified as Titanic's would be more fitting of a ship with such a reputation than a plain clock like the Aft GSC.

As for the Aft GSC photos I stated were from Titanic, I may have misread that the photos of the Olympic's Aft GSC was that of Titanic.

Best Regards,

Brian
 

Jeremy Lee

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Was it true that the Titanic's Forward GSC clock was not installed as there was no time and a mirror was temporarily placed there?
 
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Jeremy - According to the book "Titanic Voices", the clock on the GSC may not have been installed. That is the only place I know that mentions it.
 

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