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Message: [QUOTE="Jim Kalafus, post: 163707, member: 139751"] The sets and art design of a film taking precedence over things like logic, coherence, and pacing is a rather depressing trend. It is not that Jack and Rose are fictional that makes a surprising number of people resent them- it is that they are sloppy, casually drawn, flat characters ambling through situations that range from stupid (Molly Brown and the tux) to VERY stupid (chained to a pipe) to insultingly stupid ("Jack- this is where we met!") at too leisurely a pace. Here- try this. Take your VHS copy of Titanic and randomly remove 20 consecutive minutes from any of the first two hours after the disappearance of Old Rose (the only good part of the picture) and the flashback to 1912. Then watch the film again, and observe the sad fact that EVERY LINE OF DIALOGUE in it post Old Rose is a throwaway, as is every scene leading up to the accident. There are not too many movies in which randomly deleting 20 minutes of expository material won't hurt the flow of the storyline. >The "Frederic Spedden's son spinning the top scene" is just another, which was taken from a photograph. Therein lies one of the major problems of the film. It is all background and no foreground. >Why not choose the part that interests you...the ship and sinking. Because to get to them one must endure: -Static dialogue. -improbable situations. - mediocre animation. (One must REALLY suspend disbelief during the shot of the ship sailing towards the camera by daylight, to avoid acknowledging how cheesy the animated people are) -stereotypes. -a plot that lags 20 minutes into the film and never regains its pace. - Jack handcuffed to a pipe. - A Mr. Goodbar style 'pickup' complete with backseat sex. -Yet another dance in steerage. - Leonardo feigning 'butch' in the Card Game Sequence. - "I'M KING OF THE WORLD!" - Let's name drop Freud. -Jack's artwork. -The animated sunset. -"It doesn't look any bigger than the Mauretania." -Molly Brown travelling with a tux that fits. -Lightbulbs that burn under water. -Cal and his Big Gun. -Cal's obvious hairpiece. -Kate's bordello style nude layout...should have been executed on black velvet. -The animated sailboat after Captain Smith "opens her up." -Billy Zane's evil valet. -The corset. -Mrs. Bukater. -Twenty minutes of storyline expanded into two hours of screen time. -Rose's suicide attempt. -Rose. ...all of which are a great price to pay to look at sets. [/QUOTE]

Verification: In which year did the Titanic sail?