Had the Olympic Not Been Scrapped


I often wonder about the Olympic and often think what a huge tourist attraction it might have been if its builders had the hind sight to see its historical significance and it hadn't been scrapped. Could you imagine? Its hard to.
 
Are you kidding? I always imagine it. Just imagine... the US could have the Queen Mary and England could have the Olympic...

Now halfway into the 70s I think many *may* have forgotten about the Olympic, so the owners *could* switch the name to Titanic... and for once the laughable "switch" theory would've actually worked! Well, for marketing, at least. :p

-John
 
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I doubt if the Olympic would have made it this long. Even if she wasn't scrapped in 1935, she may have met an unfortunate fate during WWII.

But lets say that she did survive the second war. Would there have been enough interest by the general public to see her on exhibit? The publics taste had changed and those old fashioned ships like the Olympic were far out dated.

Would the public still find it quaint that first class staterooms didn't have private baths for all? No air conditioning? I doubt it. Heck, even today people b*tch about the accommodations on the old Queen Mary as being crampt and noisy.

I tell ya, if I had a few extra billion dollars laying around, I'd build replicas of all three. The Olympic, Titanic and Britannic. One could be a museum, another a hotel and the third a school for students to learn about the ships and other maritime subjects. Just image that! Walking along Las Vegas Boulevard and seeing the three sisters docked along side each other! Now who has Steve Wynns phone number?
 
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Wayne Keen

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Keep in mind that hotel/museum status did not work at all for the Queen Elizabeth, and is having serious issues these days with the Mary.

Wayne

p.s. David, if I ever get rich, I will give you a call. I also thought it would be fun to do the Luci and the Normandie too
 
Hi Wayne!

LOL, indeed! We could line up all the classic liners! Bring the SS.United States too!

You are right about the profitability. One of the ships would have to be a casino to bring in enough cash to keep the other ships afloat so to speak. But wouldn't that be a sight? A man made harbor with the classic era liners all in port together!
 
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Wayne Keen

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I have mumbled about this in other threads where it would be nominally on topic - but I would be fascinated to see a painting done of what I call Valhalla Harbor - with a number of important or interesting liners floating peacefully at anchor in a smooth body of water, surrounded by towering mountains.

Wayne

p.s. Nobody has ever responded to the idea
 
but I would be fascinated to see a painting done of what I call Valhalla Harbor - with a number of important or interesting liners floating peacefully at anchor in a smooth body of water, surrounded by towering mountains.

Sounds like a fantastic image Wayne. However, I would suggest a name change, as many people will remember the legend of Valhalla going down in flames (especially in Richard Wagner's "Gotterdamerang"), which would bring back sad memories of the Queen Elizabeth.

I could, though, envision a "Pictures At An Exhibition" collage of the ships with a Norwegian Fjord in the background; featured would be the 'Crossing the Rainbow Bridge Into Valhalla' theme from "Das Rheingold", the 'Dawn Music' from "Gotterdamerang" and the 'Morning Mood' music from Edvard Grieg's "Peer Gynt Suite" (my mom enjoys listening to these and other classical tunes). We'd also have to include 'In the Hall of the Mountain King', also from the "Peer Gynt Suite" for any images of looking straight up at the ships or exploring their interiors.

Wayne, I think we could make this idea work, especially IF I win big in the California Lotto jackpot (to reward KM for being part of this).
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Brent Holt

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Even though Olympic is my favorite ship, I doubt she would have survived to our day. Let's say that Cunard had kept Olympic (which they should have-she was relatively cheap to operate when compared to her running mates.) and used her on the express service with the QM & Aquitania from 1936 until the start of WWII. The odds are Olympic would have survived the war. In 1947, the Australian government expressed interest in chartering Aquitania for immigrant service. But the ship was not available at that time. Perhaps Olympic would have run on that service for a period? I suspect she, along, with Aquitania would have gone to the breakers at about the same time. Preservation was just not seriously considered in that era.
Here is another interesting what if? What if Cunard had retired Majestic before Olympic? It's quite possible that Olympic would have become the Caledonia! If Cunard had only gone through with the plan to use Olympic in cruise service through the fall of 1935, the Caledonia conversion might still have happened.

Brent
 
Used today for what? A museum? In retrospect, that would have been nice, as it's extremely unlikely that the Olympic would be used as any sort of a passenger vessel had she survived to the present day. She would be nearly a century old and would have to have been refitted so lavishly and extensively that it would virtually qualify as a rebuilding and she would have to be so altered to meet current SOLAS requirements as to be almost unrecognizable.

Ship's rarely last more then 25 to 30 years in actual service and there are some very compelling reasons for that, not the least of which is that the sea itself is brutal on a hull. By the end of 30 years, a given hull is usually so worn out that it's no longer worth refurbishing.

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Aly Jones

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Has any one thought about this, If the cunard line kept Olyimpic and never scarpe her the olylimpic in 1935 and remarckable fate that she still here right now,we all could of seen what the Titanic look like in 1912.Olylimpic would of gaven us a colour veiw of the Titanic inside and out.But of cause as soon as they had the chance the cunard line was so desperatly to get rid of white starline ships.
Olylimpic first one built and the last one to bite the dust!

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I read somewhere that there was an interested moneyed party that did want to convert Olympic to some sort of hotel somewhere in the UK, I don't remember the port. Had this gone through, it's safe to say the Luftwaffe would have definitely bombed it. They tried to bomb the Victory in Portsmouth so I'm sure the Olympic would have been destroyed outright being a big ship in port, active or not.
 

Brad Rousse

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Victory was actually damaged in a 1941 raid on Portsmouth; thankfully, it was relatively minor damage (part of the foremast and a steel cradle). The Luftwaffe announced her destruction for propaganda purposes, which was followed by a prompt Admiralty rebuttal.
 

IanMcD

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I often wonder about the Olympic and often think what a huge tourist attraction it might have been if its builders had the hind sight to see its historical significance and it hadn't been scrapped. Could you imagine? Its hard to.

It would be wonderful if the Olympic was still with us today. Being to able to visit the Olympic would be an immeasurable experience and would provide a great deal of insight in understanding the Titanic, how she was built and what happened to her when she encountered that iceberg. In addition to that, it would simply be a treasure to have an ocean liner from that era still with us. But sadly they are all gone.
 
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Maybe considering that she survived multiple collisions and is the only known passenger ship to ram and sink a U-boat AND survive a Torpedo hit, Clive Palmer or others should think of Rebuilding Olympic! At least there's more photos...
 
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