Hi, I'm living in Australia...and my grandfather was Harry Bryde who always told us he was on the titanic...and i've only recently found out another Harold Bride was also known to be the assistant radio operator. My grandfather came to Australia just after the Titanic sinking..and married in 1919. He was born October 1890 in Essex...and I have examined newspaper photographs along with his wedding photo..and it looks to be the same person..as well as an uncanny family resemblance. I do have his signature and would love for anyone who has a list of signatures from those who travelled on the ship..where maybe i could compare that. He is still survived by his 7 children all who live in Australia...I would also like to hear from any relative of the other Harold Bride..where we can compare notes. I would love this riddle sorted out one way or another..so is there anyone out there who could help in any way??
I truly hate to be the one to break the bad news, but the Harold Sydney Bride from the Titanic was born on January 11, 1890, in Nunhead, South London. He had three children, and after the Titanic sinking moved to Scotland where he worked as a salesman until his death in 1956.
One way we could determine if they are one and the same: Laura, what was your grandmother's name? The Harold Bride from the Titanic was also married in 1919.
I went through something almost identical to your situation this year. For years, I thought my great-uncle William Dye and my great-aunt Anne Mary Dye had been onboard the Titanic in second-class. Not long after joining this site, I soon discovered otherwise. However, in researching them I learned alot about two of my family members that I did not know, so I basically didn't leave empty-handed.
Thanks for your reply..but i feel they are not the same person..but somehow identities have become confused somehow. My grandmother's name was Dora Ivy Stella Fielding who also emigrated with her parents from England. My grandfather I am sure he was on the Titanic...from stories he used to tell us....even to the music played in the final moments being different to common knowledge at that time...and he would break into tears at the sound of it ever since. I just wish there was some signature check or somehow a specialist could identify his wedding photo with that of the photos taken of the tragedy...we did on overhead projectors..and it seemed to line up very well...as he had very distinctive ears and hair line also matched....
This may be hard to take, but your grandfather was not on the Titanic. Harold Bride's wife and your grandmother are not the same person. I hate to be blunt about it, but it appears he was another "supposed" survivor, they come a dime a dozen.
I was wondering if Bride, wireless operator, ever fully recovered from his injuires?
if he had lasting problems from that night in that lifeboat?
i read his bio and it said that he continued working wireless. so he must have recovered somewhat.
I unearthed some odds and ends from the basement today while home recovering from the hospital trip. Thought some bits could be of interest. The first letter is from the Ministry of Defence (London) Bride served on SS MEDINA in 1913, and HMS MONA'S ISLE in 1918-19. He also served aboard HAVERFORD, LUSITANIA, LAFRANC and ANSELM before he went to TITANIC. The naval historian who researched this for me, AJ Francis, went on to say that "although Bride was a merchant seaman, and may well have served in the Royal Navy or the Reserves during WWI, he does not appear to have been a commissioned officer." Another note I received about 20 years ago says " Harold Bride spent the last years of his life at Provon Hall, Stepps. on the ouskirts of Glasgow, Scotland and died April 29th, 1956 in the hospital at 133 Balmoral Road and was cremated after a private funeral. His wife, Lucy Johnstone Bride (nee Downie) died in 1973, aged 83 in Prestwick, Scotland. The other bit, I forget where it came from ,but it is typed without a signature and states Bride was born near Catford Kent, son of Arthur Larner Bride and Sarah, had 3 brothers, Frank, Arthur and Edwin and one sister Marie Cecile whom he called "Sissie." The family had lived since 1901 at 58 Ravensborne Avenue near Bromley not far from the Shortlands station. The house was called "Crofton's" Harold went to Beckenham Secondary School , then at 14 onto Clapham to attend the Technical Wireless Institute which later became the School of Wireless Telegraphy. In 1910 he annoyed the neighbors by putting up a wireless aerial in the back yard. In 1911 he obtained his certificate from the Marconi school (Liverpool) in radial telegraphy and went to sea in the Haverford and other ships(mentioned above). After Titanic, he returned home and was met at the Baltic by his father on May 18th. A neighbor, at the time a little girl,(Mrs. Thompson) remembered Harold's hair had turned nearly white. He became a local hero and his grammar school extolled its policy of mandatory swimming lessons. His wartime Royal Navy Reserve record lists him with these titles: R.N.R., W.T.O. W.T.S. 483. His father died in 1922, the family then moved to 69 Park Hill Clapham and later to Telford Avenue Streatham. Later his mother moved away to live wth her son Frank. Bride married a Scottish schoolteacher Lucy and the couple moved to Scone where they lived in Stormont House on the main street. Bride found odd jobs, working as a traveling salesman and still maintaining his love of wireless- he had his own transmitter and had contacts all over the world.
Found one more bit- apparently Harold never spoke much about Titanic, his nieces Kathleen and Christina and nephew Robert found out about his involvement from old newspaper clippings and references in the family Bible. There was also a postcard of Titanic sent by Bride to the family prior to the ship's Southampton departure. Harold and Lucy had 3 children: Lucy, Jeanette and John. Bride was by all accounts a strict father and all the children were required to attend church every Sunday. Little Lucy bcame a nurse and moved out to the Orient, Jeanette a schoolteacher who for a time worked in Ethiopia before returning to teach in Scotland, and John went to Oxford after WWII and went to work for the Forestry Commission. He went on to work in Nigeria where he was killed in a car crash which may have been an ambush. The remaining members of the family remember Harold as "small and tubby with very curly hair and a pronounced Scottish accent. .. extremely jovial and loved a joke." This ends the letter -I'm sorry to say the signature on the letter is blurred and I cannot recall who furnished these recollections!
I recently found a contact in Scotland that contradicted the tales of Bride's reluctance to talk about the disaster. He had a copy of his testimony which he took around to a friends house to look over from time to time.
Hi Jemma- yes- I guess he was reluctant to speak to press and family, but not to close friends. I also have an account that for a joke he hid Christina's doll, and made a little hanging gibet for it?!!! I guess she thought it was funny- odd huh? The writer of this letter is a Mr. Pladdys. I have never been an expert on survivor or crew, nor plan to be, but Bride has always been my fascinating favorite figure and have named my ginger cat for him! Am now trying to unearth a letter I had back in 1976 about a man named Kleindeinst whose daughter claims HE was the first to get the signal from Titanic on his home set in Massachusetts. Anyway, the cellar is getting cleaned!