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Message: [QUOTE="Samuel Halpern, post: 109337, member: 137378"] Jim. A good summary as to why Titanic was facing northward after coming to a stop is given [url="http://home.earthlink.net/~dnitzer/NorthernLights/North.html"]HERE[/url]. As far as Rowe being near a compass, he did not have to go into the wheelhouse to check a compass. There was one on the navigating ahead of the wheelhouse, and he spent quite a bit of time moving about the bridge firing off socket signals and using a Morse lamp. My point is that he had opportunities to check the compass he care too. He also knew the ship's compass course after they passed the corner. He was at the wheel at the time. So he knew the ship was headed westerly since 5.50. Why would he say the ship was pointing northward after he came onto the bridge with those detonators later on? He must have seen something that indicated to him the ship's direction. As in the referenced link above, Crawford's evidence I believe is quite strong. He was in boat 8 rowing toward the light, which we know was between 1/2 to 2 points off Titanic's port bow, and the Carpathia came up from the opposite direction. We know the Carpathia's heading was 308Â° true as she approached the area. As far as Olliver's claim being hearsay, I strongly disagree. It was a first person account of what he heard Murdoch order and confirmed by Moody. He admitted that he did not hear any orders prior to arriving on the bridge which may have been given before the collision. What you have is a conflict in testimony between Hichens and Olliver in what subsequent orders were given after contact with the ice was made. Olliver said a hard-aport order was given while Hichens denied any such order was given. It is also interesting to note that Hichens never mentioned receiving any helm orders at all when he told his story of what happened to reporters before testifying before the US Senate. My own opinion is that Hichens was afraid he would be blamed for the accident if he admitted he turn the wheel in the direction of the berg. Take care. [/QUOTE]

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