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Message: [QUOTE="Samuel Halpern, post: 109348, member: 137378"] Jim: The "overbearing idiot with little marine knowledge" was Hichens, the same QM that said he never put the helm over to port, the one who you believe told the absolute truth. From Page 337 of the American Inquiry: Maj. PEUCHEN: "...He [Hichens] thought it was a boat of some kind. He thought probably it might be a buoy out there of some kind, and he called out to the next boat, which was within hearing, asking if he knew if there was any buoy around there. This struck me as being perfectly absurd, and showed me the man did not know anything about navigating, expecting to see a buoy in the middle of the Atlantic." Cheers, [/QUOTE]