How many liners did Cunard lose to disaster in peacetime?


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How many liners did Cunard lose to disaster in peacetime? I cant think of any. Was there a ship called Cunard Fantasy that burned?

Queen Elizabeth was no longer a Cunard vessel when she was lost , so her burning doesnt count. I still see it claimed Cunard never lost a ship in peacetime- but i think they lost a few..

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As far as I know, only Slavonia, which hit the Azores in 1909. Cunard has never lost a passenger due to shipwreck in peacetime.

I think the ship that caught fire was Carnival Ecstasy. Captain Wood is the expert on that.
 

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1. Columbia, wrecked near Cape Sable, Nova Scotia, 7 Feb. 1843;

2. Balbec, beached after hitting submerged wreckage off Cornwall, 28 March 1884, and declared a total loss;

3. Karnak, wrecked off Bermuda, 1862;

4. Melita, burned at sea, 5 Sep. 1868;

5. Stromboli, lost off the Lizard, 1878;

6. Sidon, wrecked near Malpica, Spain, 27 Oct. 1885;

7. Malta, wrecked near Lands End, 15 Oct. 1889;

8. Demerara, went missing en route from Liverpool to Gibraltar, Dec. 1887;

9. Oregon, sank off Fire Island after collision, 14 Mar. 1886;

10. Lucania, burned and sank while in lay-up at Liverpool, 14 Aug. 1909;

11. Slavonia, grounded at Flores, Azores, 11 June 1909.

No lives were lost in any of these incidents. While some of these were small coastal or cross-channel vessels, others was transatlantic vessels.

Sources: Haws' Merchant Fleets; Bonsor's North Atlantic Seaway.
 
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I have often heard it said Cunard never lost a ship in peacetime-
but didnt the Cunard ship "Cunard Ambassador" go up in flames?
Any other peacetime Cunard wrecks?

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No lives were lost in any of these incidents.

Given that Demerara went missing, this is obviously not correct. Haws' Merchant Fleets, the source for this, gives no information as to loss of life when this occurred, but surely there must have been some. Demerara, which initially had 46 passenger accommodations, was in use for cargo only from 1880, but her crew would have been lost if she indeed disappeared, as Haws says she did.

Neither Haws nor Bonsor mentions any loss of life in connection with any of the other Cunard wrecks.
 
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thats were that thread went...............

Moderator's note: "That thread" is now this one; the two have been merged. MAB
 

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Yes, she did, but unlike the other Cunarders I mentioned, the 1974 fire wasn't the end of her. She never returned to Cunard service, but was rebuilt as a livestock carrier for C. Classen of Copenhagen. According to Haws, she was still in service as of 1989, but according to Cunard's website, she has since been scrapped.
 
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