Not really, there were some survivors who mentioned ice and this had been also in letters. Some boats which rowed away got close to the icebergs and ice, with other words the ice was still there. Several who came up on deck after the collision claimed to have seen the iceberg, but how do we know it was that iceberg (which according to Boxhall & co. disappeared in the dark)?PS: To say there was ' no evidence of anyone seeing ice around Titanic', is not necessarily true. There are news articles that claim such, but these articles are usually very 'yellow press'.
The launching of lifeboats occurred sooner after the final stop than always assumed. Titanic hit the iceberg at 12:04 am April 14 time (or 11:40 pm crew time). I don't know for sure when the ship came to her final stop, but I estimate about 15 minutes after the collision, say 12:20 am April 14 time. The first lifeboat was launched at 12:40 am April 14 time, so there was about 20 minutes between stopping and launching boats.Plus the timing of launching the boats, and the timing of the ship starting and stopping again, do not seem to be in correlation, as too much time lapsed between the two. In other words, if they started the engines to steam out of ice, in order to launch the lifeboats, than they should have started launching boats sometime around them coming to a final stop. The evidence however, does not allow this, as the launching of the lifeboats still seems to have occurred quite awhile afterward.
And what is your source for all of that?The launching of lifeboats occurred sooner after the final stop than always assumed. Titanic hit the iceberg at 12:04 am April 14 time (or 11:40 pm crew time). I don't know for sure when the ship came to her final stop, but I estimate about 15 minutes after the collision, say 12:20 am April 14 time. The first lifeboat was launched at 12:40 am April 14 time, so there was about 20 minutes between stopping and launching boats.
You can not have it both ways!There definitely was a clock set back at the 8 to 12 pm watch. Lightoller clearly mentioned it during the US Inquiry.
The exact moment of that setback is still under discussion, and I don't deem to join in that. Anyway, the setback definitely did take place, thus reducing the always assumed hour between collision and lifeboat launching with as many minutes as the setback.
Thanks for the kind words.Thanks Ioannis, I was hoping you would jump on this discussion. You're mind is like a steel trap when it comes to passenger statements.
We do not know what Captain Smith had in mind when giving the order half ahead. From QM Olliver, Greaser Scott and Trimmer Dillon we know the order was given directly after the collision (not 5 Minutes later).1- I cannot comprehend why Cpt. Smith or any other captain for that matter would want to set his heading towards New York again before the sounding of the ship was completed. It just doesn't make any sense.
Boxhall only hear the lapping water but did not see the iceberg.My next question about this topic (and there are plenty) is whether or not Boxhall should have seen the berg he heard water lapping around the base of.