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Kate Williams

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I am looking for images of crew and passengers that I can use without paying any fees for our souvenir brochure for Titanic-The Musical. Does anyone know where I can get them from and/or does anyone have any they would be willing to let me reproduce for free? Cheeky I know but if you don't ask you don't get!

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Go onto any of the good search engines- Google, Yahoo, MSN, etc. Click on "Images"
Simply type in "RMS Titanic", and you should be presented with a few hundred pages.
As for the copyright laws... You'll have to ask their sources.
 
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I have found a pic on the net of all the officers on the boat deck. I believe it was taken before the ship left Belfast for her open sea trials.
Image removed, due to copyright issues - JDT
Addendum - A bit smaller than what I had expected, but that's what you get for free these days :eek:)
 

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Hello Ryan,

I'm afraid I had to remove that image, because of copyright issues. Copyrighted images are not permitted to be posted on the board, unless you first obtain permission from the copyright holder. Otherwise, it could land you in a lot of hot water. If you think an image has copyrights attached to it, then it probably does. I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but it beats getting sued.

See this thread for more info on copyrights:

Copyright Issues

As far as the identities of the officers in the photo go, they are Olympic's officers, not Titanic's. Time and time again, this photo has been misidentified as the latter, but fortunately there are researchers out there that have been trying to correct this over the years. One of those researchers, is our own Inger Sheil who has done wonderful work on identifying these men.

See this thread for more info:

Olympic's officers
 
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>>The source didn't tell of any copyright issues attached, but it's best to stay on the safe side, eh?<<

Sometimes, they don't. Sometimes any number of websites will illegally put up photos nicked from somewhere else. When in doubt, the safe course is to assume that copyright still applies. As you said, Ryan, it's better to play it safe!
 

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There are a lot of innacurate Titanic pictutres, like i found a picture of the Mauretania which said :"SS Titanic which sank on her maiden voyage" .... unbelieveable!!! also it was "RMS Titanic" not "SS Titanic" a lot of people put SS .....well, it's wrong!!


Take her to sea Mr Murdoch-Let's stretch her legs
 
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>>unbelieveable!!! <<

Also quite common. Very few people were of the rivet counting persuasion back then so you would have been hard pressed to find anyone who knew the difference. For those who published postcards, any four stacker would do.

>>also it was "RMS Titanic" not "SS Titanic" a lot of people put SS .....well, it's wrong!! <<

Actually, it's not.

S.S. was a generic prefix which referred to any steam powered vessel and even the Mersey Wreck Commission's Transcript is titled as "Loss Of The S.S. Titanic"

R.M.S. was a formal prefix used to identify British steamers which were contracted to carry the mails.
 
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>>...even the Mersey Wreck Commission's Transcript is titled as "Loss Of The S.S. Titanic"

Not to mention Lawrence Beesley's book's title:
"The Loss of the S.S. Titanic - It's Stories and It's Lessons."

Roy
 

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Owners and builders rather liked RMS, because it implied speed and reliability. At H & W, the three Olympic class ships were all labelled RMS on big sign-boards near their bows.

I have a rather bad copy of the sign for Britannic, photographed from TV. Sadly, the film was made shortly before launching, so it doesn't settled the old argument over the ship's naming.
 

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Much depended on the context. As Dave said, RMS was the more impressive prefix, often used 'for affect'. But where the name was used purely for identification, as on documents like boarding passes and on the lifeboat nameplates, it was SS Titanic.
 
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>>Sadly, the film was made shortly before launching, so it doesn't settled the old argument over the ship's naming.

I'm curious why this should still a controversy. I've seen a WSL poster advertizing the Gigantic [!] and I have a small article from the Seattle Times reporting that the Gigantic [!] was going to undergo major modifications following the Titanic disaster. The names Olympic, Titanic and Gigantic all follow a Greek mythological theme, whereas Britannic doesn't. I guess I don't understand the problem.

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Roy, this has been argued on another thread. The poster you mention is not from White Star. It's not even an accurate drawing.

It's true that the press used the name Gigantic, even after Britannic was named, but there's no proof that White Star ever intended to use the name. My own opinion is that it was a media beatup, but others beg to differ.
 

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The problem, Roy, is that there's no smoking gun that can be authoritatively traced to White Star. Take a look under the Britannic topic, particularly the "Construction and History" subtopic, or do a keyword search for "Gigantic," and you'll find the threads Dave referred to.

I'm one of the folks that Dave referred to in his last five words, but I agree that the supposed "White Star poster" is nothing of the sort; given that it has what appear to be dimensions of some sort---is it "46 x 60," or something like that--- on it, it has always looked to me like the type of paper/cardboard insert you'd find in a package of sheets or something so you could tell what size they were.
 
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>>The poster you mention is not from White Star. It's not even an accurate drawing.

Thanks, Dave and Mark!

I'll take another look at that poster. But Dave, I'm not sure accuracy should really be a factor in determining ultimate authenticity -- I can find all kinds of inaccuracies in anything that predates Ken Marschall. '-)

Roy
 

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The dimensions are actually 64 x 80. Is Mark's ingenious suggestion right?

Roy, note the colour of the funnels.
 

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Great stuff! The clincher would be finding a similar poster with a pic of the Nomadic and the word 'Small'.
:)
 
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