In which boat Rose was about to save first

[Diego Uriol]

hello everybody!
well, in the movie there is a scene where Rose is about to save first in a boat but i was wondering if it was the cutter no. 2 or the collapsible D. i would1 really appreciate any kind of answer!
thanks, diego.

 

[Vitezslav Ivicic]

When she run off to save Jack, that's number 6. And later, when she jump off, that's the collapsible D - the last boat that left the Titanic.

 

[Diego Uriol]

ok thank you vitezslav! and what about the collapsibles A and B? aren't they considered as lifeboats which left the ship because they floated free?

 

[Vitezslav Ivicic]

Yes, they are. In the movie is the collapsible A that boat in which Cal get on (with the child. And collapsible B was the overturned one.

 

[Jonathan Girard]

It was not lifeboat 2. I always think it was lifeboat 2.

First: The crewmember did a ring(I don't know how to said it, my native language is french) with their arms to prevent men to embark in collapsible D but we did not see this when Rose embark in the mysterious lifeboat.

Secondly:When collapsible D was lowered, A promenade deck went under water. In the same moment, Mr Hugh Woolner and Mr Bjornstrom-Steffanson jumped into collapsible D. But, in the lifeboat scene, when Rose jumped to return on Titanic, A-deck is absolutely dry.

Third:When Collapsible D was lowered, a seaman(I don't remember the name) shouted to Miss Edith Evans who was still on Titanic that they were preparing an another lifeboat for her.

Then, I always assumed that it was lifeboat 2...But maybe, I'm wrong...


Sorry for my english...

 

[João Carlos Pereira Martins]

Yes, Jonathan, things become a bit confusing at a certain point. I always assumed that it was collapsible D. In the sequence where the boat deck is filmed by above we already see boat 4 in the water, so it was impossible to be boat 2, as it was lowered away at about 1.45 am.However, and I agree with you, the promenade deck is completely clean and dry (the water hadn't passed the B-deck railing if you notice in an earlier scene)and I couldn't see the two men jumping to the boat. I've always thought that Mr. Woolner said in his statements that both had to swim to reach the boat, as the it was already flooding.

Anyway it's just a film, particularly know by its mistakes (I consulted a site which says the 1997 film is in second place with 243 errors, including both production and filming mistakes as well as historical inaccurancies)

Best,
João

 

[Jonathan Girard]

And, the officer who try to prevent Hockley to be in the bridge was not Boxhall? In fact, Boxhall left the ship in lifeboat 2.

''where the boat deck is filmed by above we already see boat 4 in the water, so it was impossible to be boat 2, as it was lowered away at about 1.45 ''

Yes, I've already seen it and I assumed it was a mistake.

''I've always thought that Mr. Woolner said in his statements that both had to swim to reach the boat, as the it was already flooding''

Yes, you are right...Sorry for the mistakes

 

[Bill Wormstedt]

What Woolner actually said, is he and Steffanson jumped from A Deck to Collapsible D as it was being lowered. The exact quote from page 887 of the US Inquiry:

Mr. WOOLNER. It was full up to the bow, and I said to Steffanson: "There is nobody in the bows. Let us make a jump for it. You go first." And he jumped out and tumbled in head over heels into the bow, and I jumped too, and hit the gunwale with my chest, which had on this life preserver, of course and I sort of bounced off the gunwale and caught the gunwale with my fingers, and slipped off backwards.

Senator SMITH. Into the water?

Mr. WOOLNER. As my legs dropped down I felt that they were in the sea.

So, neither had to swim, and only got a bit wet.

 

[João Carlos Pereira Martins]

Thanks, Mr. Wormstedt, for reminding Mr. Woolner's statements in his testimony. Yes, as you said, they got a little wet, but I assume that it means that water, if not already in the promenade deck, was only some centimeters far away from the railing.

Anyway, thanks very much. And Jonathan, you supposed I was correcting your mistakes. Actually I was supporting your opinions.

Cheers,
JC

 

[João Carlos Pereira Martins]

Sorry but I forgot to say one thing. Jonathan I've always presumed that the deck officer who tries not to allow Hockley in the bridge is James Moody.

Best

 

[Diego Uriol]

hello again. If you have noticed, in a close up shot of the mysterious boat, you can easily recognize the canvas sides of a collapsible boat, so it is exactly collapsible D, but well, there still are some doubts because of certain facts that happened before and during the launching of this boat.
Best regards,
diego
PD: sorry if I commited mistakes, i'm peruvian and English is not my native language

 

[Jonathan Girard]

But, when we saw lifeboat 2 who was very near of Titanic and we hear Boxhall shoot ''Rowing faster'' or a things like that, we can saw the two little girls who were crying during the loading of the lifeboat where Rose took place...

Sorry too for my english...