Is this the Olympic or the Titanic

[Jon_dalbyball]

Just out of interest is this (see below link) the Titanic or a "photoshoped" Olympic made to look like the Titanic.... I'm sure I have seen the original and it was the Olympic but not sure... Theres another photograph like this one - same view at least which is of the Titanic but was taken from a more lower down point of view... Anyone got a copy of that they could share to refresh me/us....

Cheers.

ps the link to the photo - Olympic or photoshoped Titanic ??????

global.ebay.com/Milvina_Dean_1912-2009_signed_photo_TITANIC_autograph/370212875007/item

 

[Russell Friesen]

Hi Jon, this same photo also appears in "The Titanic Story" by David Hutchings, on page 61. The photo in this book is credited to the author's collection, and is signed by Millvina in the top right corner. I don't suspect that it is a photoshopped view of Olympic.

 

[Michael H. Standart]

Actually, that's the Olympic which was photoshopped to look like the Titanic. An unretouched version of this photo appears on page 84-85 of Paul Louden-Brown's "The White Star Line."

 

[Jon_dalbyball]

Thought it was the Olympic... Are there photographs of the Titanic in private collections that have never seen the light of day ? Pity if there are....

 

[Michael H. Standart]

>>Are there photographs of the Titanic in private collections that have never seen the light of day ?<<

It's a good bet since some come to light every once in a great while.

 

[Jason D. Tiller]

Just to add to what Mike said. There was an unpublished photo of Titanic that was sold on ebay several years ago, for $5,000. This photo was unlike any other, as the camera was facing the stern, when she was leaving port.

 

[Russell Friesen]

Hi guys, I checked out the photo in Paul Loudon-Brown's book and I stand corrected; it is the original photo. Looks like both David Hutchings and Millvina Dean were fooled by this one, too! Thanks, Mike!

 

[Steven Hall]

In short YES there are unpublished Titanic photographs out there.
But we all know what the ship looks like anyway.
Most unpublished images are post launch and the first few months of fittingout.
What are their value ? Only what people will pay for them !
That photo of Titanic leaving Southampton is part of the Terrell-Wright collection.
There is another photograph taken from much the same angle at 'almost' the same time.
It was sold 11 years ago and has once again disappeared into the black abyss of forgotten images.
And that is the holders choice.

 

[Brent Holt]

But it is a shame. Historical images should be shared in some way with the world.....

 

[Samuel Halpern]

I agree with you Brent. Unfortunately, some people's possessive and controlling instincts outweigh everything else. Those who are like that tend to be the most selfish people I know.

 

[Jason D. Tiller]

I agree with you as well, Brent. It's sad that people choose to not share their photos. As Sam said, their behaviour tops everything else.

 

[Steven Hall]

Who owns the past? An image taken one hundred years ago is, the past! Who can claim ownership of the past?
As a famous Chinese philosopher wrote, “Who owns ones reflection upon the stillness of water? Who claims the sound of another’s footsteps?
Because the Mona Lisa is on public display, has its value been diminished?

 

[Samuel Halpern]

There is a big difference Steve between what the Chinese philosopher wrote and the situation today. Today we can capture and preserve a reflected image or the sound waves of footsteps that were in the air on photographic and sound recording devices, something unheard of when that philosopher was alive. The owner of a photo or sound track then owns the captured image or sound of the past.

The question is their willingness to share it with others.