Thank you Michael for your reply,i had realized there was betting between the passengers and no doubt crew, but i really meant that the desire to run the trial could have been coming from Bell/smith or others in the officers or engineering section. Ismay had already deferred to them over the arrival time of the olympic. i see his meeting with Bell at Queenstown as more Bell explaining what he wished to do with the engines, than Ismay telling bell. I think i am seeing Ismay as more of a spectator on the Titanic than actively getting involved in the issue of how many boilers are lit etc . which brings me to the other point you raised if Ismay had not been on board then it appears that things would have been just the same, which perhaps explains why he felt he had been unjustly charged on the question of his interfering with the ships speed.