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Hi George
Apologies for the delay in responding - I haven't posted on ET for a while so I had to re-register.

In answer to your question, all of Jack Phillip's Australian relatives are descended from his uncle Fred Phillips who emigrated in the 1870's and became a very successful store owner. I'm afraid Jack wasn't anybody's 'uncle' - neither of his sisters married or had children, so any direct link to him ended with Elsie's death in 1953. I'm not aware of any family members with the surname Clements within the family tree, but it is possible that they could be maternal relatives, descended from the Saunders side of the family. Let me know if you come up with any other names, dates or places once you have spoken to your Father and I will do some more checking for you but, at the moment, I'm afraid that the connection appears to be family folklore.
All the best
Mandy
 

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Ah, thank you very much. I had been able to locate George Phillips in the UK Census and it shows he was born in Trowbridge, Wiltshire about January 1845. So this helps a bunch. Also the Cenus has Ann as being born in Plymtree, Devon.

I seen where some researchers have Geroge's parents down as a John Phillips and Elleanora Slade. Do you know if this is true?

My grandmother was a relative from the slade line. I always knew Jack was a relative but just recently found out how. I am planning on visiting his memorial in September while in the UK. Sadly the menu from the ship and postcard that were in the family have disappeared over the last 50 years :-(
 

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Hi George
Apologies for the delay in responding - I haven't posted on ET for a while so I had to re-register.

In answer to your question, all of Jack Phillip's Australian relatives are descended from his uncle Fred Phillips who emigrated in the 1870's and became a very successful store owner. I'm afraid Jack wasn't anybody's 'uncle' - neither of his sisters married or had children, so any direct link to him ended with Elsie's death in 1953. I'm not aware of any family members with the surname Clements within the family tree, but it is possible that they could be maternal relatives, descended from the Saunders side of the family. Let me know if you come up with any other names, dates or places once you have spoken to your Father and I will do some more checking for you but, at the moment, I'm afraid that the connection appears to be family folklore.
All the best
Mandy

My grandmother was a relation her mother’s grandmother and his grandmother were sisters. My grandmother knew him and the families were quite close. He sent my grandmother (or possibly her mother) a menu and postcard, which sadly have been lost but my mum saw them. My grandmother new him as a cousin, but more precisely, her mums second cousin.
 

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My grandmother was a relation, her mother’s grandmother and his grandmother were sisters. My grandmother knew him and the families were quite close. He sent my grandmother (or possibly her mother) a menu and postcard, which sadly have been lost but my mum saw them. My grandmother new him as a cousin, but more precisely, her mums second cousin.

My grandmother was also an Australian Slade and was 2nd cousin to Jack Phillips. (Hi Helen, I guess we're cousins.) I have a pretty extensive tree in Ancestry & have updated much on FamilySearch.org, so those interested can find them there, it has 7 generations of Jack's ancestors documented. It's certainly not correct to say that 'all' of Jack's Australian relatives are Phillips descendants, as his Joseph Slade and some siblings and in-laws migrated from Trowbridge and spawned a large family. Joseph was the brother of Jack's grandmother, Ellen Norah Slade (often written Ellenorah, a name used in many generations of Slades). Ellen married John Phillips in Trowbridge 12-Apr-1837, their son George was a draper and moved about a bit, going from Trowbridge to Bath, and eventually dying in Guildford. He was buried in Godalming in 1928. This George and wife Anne (Sanders) were Jack's parents.
The story is that the Slades were to migrate to the US but on arrival at the port it was a week's wait, and a ship to Australia was leaving much sooner, so they took that one (the 'Premier' in 1840).
 

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Not sure if this has been posted before, but one of the more interesting records for Jack is the 1911 Irish census. It shows him in Marconi's training school with other's learning the trade:
Census Years/1911/Galway/Errislannan/Ballinaboy/Residents of a house
Residents of a house 5 in Ballinaboy (Errislannan, Galway)


Surname Forename Age Sex Relation Religion Birthplace Occupation
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ODriscoll Richard 34 Male Head Roman Catholic Dublin City Wireless Telegraphist
Phillips John George 24 Male Boarder Church of England Godalmina, England Wireless Telegraphist
Smith Seton 24 Male Boarder Episcopal Ch of Scotl Northberwick, Scotland Wireless Telegraphist
Sweeney Walter Moss 24 Male Boarder Church of England Liverpool, Eng Wireless Telegraphist
Hosking Leonard George 30 Male Boarder Protestant Episcopalian England Wireless Telegraphist
Earl Henry Edward 29 Male Boarder Church of England England Wireless Telegraphist
Wickham Mary 44 Female Servant(Domestic) R Catholic Co Galway House Keeper


National Archives: Census of Ireland 1911
 
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Hi,
I have visited Godalming Museum a few times now. Yes I have met Ann Laver to. What I found was when you meet Ann it's not long before others will get involved offering information to. I purchase a little book with a brief history of the man. Want I found quite amazing is the size of the memorial for a small town gave to Jack (John George) Phillips. This must be the biggest single memorial given to any of the 1500 who died.
Not knowing were you live and may be a bit out of your way as for me it's about 30 miles away.
Yes the Museum is small but does pack useful information. Weatherspoon with Titanic pictures just opposite with large car at the back and walking distance to Jack Phillips Park and memorial.
The museum has very good photos alums and history of the Wiley Park the lavish palatial mansion were Lord William Pirrie of H&W brought for a small fortune for it, and cost him a fortune to run and becoming a drain on his bank account to! Personal I think he could not pick a worse time to buy the mansion two months after lying the knee down for Titanic in Belfast May1909. Another story.
Jacks Stone.JPG Jack Phillips.JPG
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Jack Phillips.JPG
Jacks Stone.JPG


Mike.
 

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Not sure if this has been posted before, but one of the more interesting records for Jack is the 1911 Irish census. It shows him in Marconi's training school with other's learning the trade:
Census Years/1911/Galway/Errislannan/Ballinaboy/Residents of a house
Residents of a house 5 in Ballinaboy (Errislannan, Galway)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation Religion Birthplace Occupation
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ODriscoll Richard 34 Male Head Roman Catholic Dublin City Wireless Telegraphist
Phillips John George 24 Male Boarder Church of England Godalmina, England Wireless Telegraphist
Smith Seton 24 Male Boarder Episcopal Ch of Scotl Northberwick, Scotland Wireless Telegraphist
Sweeney Walter Moss 24 Male Boarder Church of England Liverpool, Eng Wireless Telegraphist
Hosking Leonard George 30 Male Boarder Protestant Episcopalian England Wireless Telegraphist
Earl Henry Edward 29 Male Boarder Church of England England Wireless Telegraphist
Wickham Mary 44 Female Servant(Domestic) R Catholic Co Galway House Keeper


National Archives: Census of Ireland 1911



can you send me that picture and other you knows. thank you
 

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Not sure what info your looking for but this link has a write up on Phillips. Its basically the article here on ET. They link this site. But it also has list of other references and sources. Might be a good place to start. Scroll down the page past the "view profile" tab. Good luck in your search.

 
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