John Hall Hutchinson

[stephen peters]

Hi There everyone, I don't know if anyone will be able to help me, I have spent much time on line and looking up in books trying to find out exactly what happened to the Joiner, John Hull Hutchinson, I know he perished in the sinking, but I do not know as to whether or not his body was found, I have gone through the listings here on the site and could not find his name on the list of bodies found, but yet when searching on another site they had a picture (supposedly) of his grave, but as well as that they also had (supposed) pictures of other peoples graves too, on the list of crew though (as it states the persons position on that site) they are down as having never been found or if so having never been identified, where as with John it doesn't state this at all, can anyone help me with this?

 

[ian Hough]

Stephen

First of all let me reassure you that all the photo's on that site are 100% legitimate.

As for whether Joiner, John Hull Hutchinson is actually buried there I do not know - What I do know is that his name is mentioned on the family grave stone.

If you would like, I could let you have the full inscription on the grave - which lists (I assume) some of his relatives

all the best
Houghie

 

[stephen peters]

Thanks for the info Houghie, if you could get hold of the inscription it would be fantastic, I am not particularly interested in his relatives name by name, but would like to know what is mentioned on there about him and his family.

Many thanks

 

[ian Hough]

No sooner done than said

In
loving memory of
Edward
the beloved husband of
Dorothy Ann Hutchinson
Died Oct 15 1919 aged 75yrs
"at rest"
Also of
John Hall Hutchinson
Ships carpenter
The dearly loved second son
Who lost his life
in the SS Titanic disaster
15 April 1912 aged 28 years
"Christ gave for wild confusion peace" *(Possibly)
and of
Edward Hutchinson ERA
the dearly loved eldest son
Who gave his life in the great war
Jutland Battle
May 21 1916 aged 34 years
"A glorious end to a noble life"
"On the gladness of reunion
when we reach the other side"
Also in
Loving memory
of
Dorothy Ann Hutchinson
*Then there is a load of grass & Ivy obscuring the rest

Hope this helps - if I can be of further help please let me know

all the best
Houghie

P.S. Welcome aboard

 

[Bob Godfrey]

Stephen, in cases where there was no body for burial it was not uncommon for relatives to have the name added to an existing gravestone of somebody close to the deceased. I think we have to conclude that Mr Hutchinson is one of the many whose body was 'if found, not identified'. The omission of this statement from his biography page is perhaps due to doubts at some stage over the identity of the J Hutchinson buried at Fairview, who was one of the ship's cooks.

 

[stephen peters]

Yes Sounds very much like the grave for Edward snr, John and Edward Jnr, and then Dorothy was added later, sorry to see they had such a loss in there family two sons through two tragic events.

 

[stephen peters]

Des anyone else have any information on his life at all? as I am interested in his life not only his death

 

[Stefan Fordham]

Can anyone help me find more info on John Hutchinson? I've looked at this website's biography of him, but it doesn't have much. Also, if you could help me find any photos of him, that would be great.

 

[Brian J. Ticehurst]

Hello Stefan - Heres a bit of information - I hope that it helps?
Cheers

Brian


Hutchinson, John Hall. Lived at 40 Onslow Road, Nicholstown, Southampton. Occupation - Joiner and carpenter. 26 years old. (Born in Hampshire).
In memoriam, The Hampshire Independent, Saturday, April 17, 1915:
In memory of John H. Hutchinson, aged 28 years, carpenter, who went down . . . Beloved son of Dorothy A, and Edw. Hutchinson.
There is a gravestone at St. Marys Extra Cemetery, Butts Road, Southampton with the inscription:
John Hall Hutchinson. Ships Carpenter. The dearly loved second son, who lost his life in the S.S. Titanic disaster, April 15th 1912. Aged 28 years.
''Christ gave for wild confusion - Peace''
Also Edward Hutchinson. Chief ERA, Battle of Jutland, May 31st 1916.
The full inscription reads:
In loving memory of Edward the beloved husband of Dorothy Ann Hutchinson
Died Oct. 15 1919 aged 75 years "at rest"
Also of John Hall Hutchinson Ships carpenter The dearly loved second son
Who lost his life in the SS Titanic disaster 15 April 1912 aged 28 years
"Christ gave for wild confusion peace"
and of Edward Hutchinson ERA the dearly loved eldest son
Who gave his life in the great war Jutland Battle
May 21 1916 aged 34 years "A glorious end to a noble life"
"On the gladness of reunion when we reach the other side"
Also in Loving memory of Dorothy Ann Hutchinson
(From Miss Bratby).
Miss Marie Young had been a music instructor to the children of President Roosevelt and was bringing back to America expensive poultry. In the early days of the voyage she became friendly with the ship's carpenter Hutchinson and each day, he would take her below to check chicken's welfare. As a reward for his kindness Miss Young tipped him with some gold coins, Hutchinson was very grateful, and exclaimed, ''It's such good luck to receive gold on a first voyage''. Miss Young was saved, Hutchinson was lost.

 

[Stefan Fordham]

Thank for that, Brian. I'm wondering if you could help me find a photo of him then?

 

[Brian J. Ticehurst]

Stefan - Sorry but I have never come across a photo of Mr. Hutchinson - maybe one day!
Cheers

Brian

 

[Matteo Eyre]

I'm not sure if this helps but here i go
From what i know and what Robert Hitchens stated i feel that it is unlikely that John Hall Hutchinson's body was ever found as, when the carpenter was asked to sound the ship by an officer, he never returned and never reported to the bridge. it is because of this that i feel that he was the first man to die on the night of the 14th-15th and i doubt his body was ever recovered
Hope this might help you in some possible way

 

[Bob Godfrey]

The carpenter, who did return to the bridge after sounding the ship (see Boxhall's testimony), was John Maxwell. Hutchinson was the joiner, a less senior position. Several of the quartermasters mentioned that "the joiner" had roused them in the accommodation they shared shortly after the collision, but I don't recall any other mention of him. In the Inquiries the officials seem to be somewhat confused about Maxwell and Hutchinson, but at one point where QM Hemming was asked something like "Do you mean the carpenter or the joiner?" (as the man who alerted the off-duty QMs) he specified the joiner. Just as Hichens and others had specified that the carpenter sounded the ship. As they shared the same accommodation, the QMs would surely have known these two men well and it seems unlikely that their mates would be confused about their job titles and responsibilities.