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Stephen Heyboer

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Hello everyone! I just found out about this group by looking up my grandfather. I am the grandson of John Hardy. Until finding this web-site I had never seen a picture of my grandfather. If anyone has information or any pictures of him, I would like to hear form you. Thanks to all the people who have done this research. Steve Heyboer
 
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Steve,
Here is my printout on Mr. Hardy :
HARDY, JOHN T. Saved in Lifeboat D. Lived at a house called Oakleigh, Holyrood Avenue, Highfield, Southampton. Occupation - Chief 2nd Class Steward. 37 years old. (Born in London). Ship before the titanic - the RMS Olympic.
Marconigram sent 18th April 1912 to: Hardy, Oakleigh, Holyrood Avenue, Highfield, Southampton, England. ''Safe and well. - Jack''.
(Cutting from Southern Evening Echo 14th May 1952).
A Former White Star man who was a survivor of the Titanic disaster in April, 1912, 81-years-old Mr. John Hardy, left Southampton for New York last night in U.S. Lines America after his first home visit in 18 years.
Mr. Hardy, who is now living at Providence, New Jersey, had spent a month at Southampton, from where he sailed many times during his 52 years at sea.
He stayed with his elder daughter, Mrs. C. Lister, at 88 Highfield Lane, Southampton, who with her 15 years-old son Jon saw him sail last night. Mr. Hardy met his grandson for the first time when he arrived here last month.
Born in London, Mr. Hardy spent most of his youth in Southampton, and went to sea at an early age. His early service was in the steward's department in White Star liners, and in 1912 he was appointed chief cabin class steward of the Titanic.
Jumped into the sea
Mr. Hardy recalled the disaster to the liner, which was regarded as unsinkable, when I saw him on board the America.
After he had retired to his room on the night of April 14-15. 1912, he heard passengers saying the liner had struck an iceberg. He regarded this as impossible as he had felt no impact, but shortly afterwards another member of the crew telephoned him and said the ship was making water.
With other members of the crew, Mr. Hardy worked getting the boats away. At the last moment he jumped into the sea and was hauled into a boat in which there were about 40 other people.
From the life boat Mr. Hardy saw the Titanic plunge down bow first. At 8am the next day he was rescued by the old Cunarder Carpathia, which had answered the Titanic's SOS.
Other White Star ships in which Mr. Hardy served were the Majestic, Celtic, Teutonic, Adriatic and Olympic. After the First World War, in which he served in hospital ships and transports, he transferred to American liners, in several of which he was chief steward.
Mr. Hardy retired from U.S. Lines in 1936.

I hope that helps?
Best regards

Brian J. Ticehurst - Southampton - UK
 
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Stephen Heyboer

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Thanks, Brian. That is fascinating. I have never heard anything saying he made it to the USA. I guess that must be "New" Providence NJ. It just so happened that I lived all my life just two towns away in Scotch Plains NJ. I was told that my grandfather had been killed by a car in England not too many years after the Titanic went down. I was also told he had a brother on board(a fireman) who died but...I haven't been able to find anything about him. Do you have any other information about him or a possible brother? thanks, Steve.
 

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Steve, just a few extra points. I don't know whether Jack Hardy had any brothers, but there was nobody else of that name on the Titanic. There is a little added colour in the newspaper account (as is often the case!). Mr Hardy was Chief Steward in Second Class, not 'chief cabin class steward' (which would include First Class), but nevertheless this was an important role with responsibility for a team of about 60 people and a monthly wage of £10 (about $50; regular stewards were paid less than £4). Also he left the ship as part of the crew of collapsible boat D, the last to be lowered on the port side, and was not at any time in the water. This is confirmed by his testimony at the American Inquiry, which can be found here:

http://www.titanicinquiry.org/USInq/AmInq07Hardy01.html
 

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I guess that must be "New" Providence NJ.

It is; that's the dateline of his obituary in The New York Times.

I don't know whether Jack Hardy had any brothers

He had at least one. According to the obit he was survived by one brother, William, who lived in London.

I've transcribed the obit and submitted it a few moments ago; a link to it should appear on Hardy's summary page in the near future.
 
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Mark
Many thanks for Mr. Hardy's Obit - that solved a big puzzle for me. Any idea of where he was interred? or perhaps he was cremated?
Any clues?
Cheers Brian
 

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Not yet, Brian. But I've added his name to the list of "New Jersey Titanic people" about whom I've been collecting newspaper articles. There are a couple of local papers that might provide those details. I'll let you know if I turn something up.
 

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Hello, again, Brian--

John Hardy and Etta M. Hardy are buried in Restland Memorial Park, East Hanover, New Jersey, USA. A photo of their grave marker, taken this morning, is now available through Hardy's ET summary page.

As of this morning, the marker was sunk four inches or so into the ground. I reported that to the office today and they said they'd have it re-set. I'll return to East Hanover in a few weeks to see if it was done and get a better photo.

I've also found his Newark Evening News obituary, which I'll transcribe and post in the next few days.
 
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Mark
Many thanks for that new location Hardy is number 951.
That is the second new Grave location this week - yesterday I found that Second Clas Passenger Fanny Lydia Kelly was buried at St Marys Church Worplesdon, Woking, Surrey - she is number 952.
The list grows.
Very best regards


Brian
 

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Excellent detective work, Mark and Brian!

Good to see a photograph of the Hardy plot. I notice that the inscription is still fully legible, and the surounding grass neatly trimmed -reinforcing my suspicion that US cemeteries are generally better maintained than in the UK.

I'm delighted to hear that you've managed to pinpoint Fanny Kelly, Brian. Been searching for her for some time. You may have the following details already, but I have recently located the graves of (among others) Rhoda Abbott Williams, Elizabeth Bonnell, Edith Pears Crowe, and Georgette Madill Mattei. I'm not sure if all of these are first time finds, but if not, details of which will be published shortly. Stay tuned!

Good work, guys.

Ben
 
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Hello, My name is Pamela Collins, maiden name Field. I am the daughter of Joan Hardy who is a twin to my Uncle Peter Hardy. They were born in South Hampton, England and thier Father is John Hardy, chief Steward in Second Class, and survived the Titanic sinking by maning a life boat along with other survivors. I am anxious to hear anything else anyone may have to tell me as I was just a little girl at the time he passed away. I do have a few pictures which I will be glad to share. I am really interested in seeing the grave marker mentioned but I clicked on the link and it said it was not available. Hope to hear from someone on this. I also am interested to find any other family still living related to my Grandfather, that is still living in England. I also need info on my Grandmother Etta, as there are no pictures or info. on her as far as I know.Looking forward to hearing from someone soon.Need copies of obit too. regards
pamela
 

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Hello Pamela,

Welcome aboard! Here's the link to John Hardy's biography which contains the image of his grave and obituary:

John Hardy

I would enjoy seeing those photos of him and perhaps you would like to contribute them to his bio.

I hope this helps.

Best wishes,

Jason
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Hmmm...

Some months after I located the grave and took the photo that's on the bio page, I returned to the cemetery and took another photo. On my first trip, I mentioned to the manager that the marker had sunk into the ground; when I returned, it had been reset and I took another photo. I though I had posted the second photo, but it seems that's not the case. I'll try to find the second one and put it up, too.
 
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I am the great grandson of the above person and was interested to find this out and that he survived the ordeal. I also have a typed account of when he was on the boat. Don't know if I should donate it to a museum ??
Please contact me if you have any questions that you want to ask.
 

Jason D. Tiller

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Hello Michael,

Welcome aboard. Have you seen your great grandfather's biography, which is right here on this site? If not, here is the link:

John Hardy

Perhaps you'd be interested in contributing his account to the biography, which I'm sure would be very interesting to read. If so, follow the "Add to this Biography" link in his bio.
 

Kelly Hardy

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Hi, my name is Kelly Hardy. John Hardy is my great-grandfather. John had two sons, Ronald and Peter...Ronald's two sons are Alan and Steve - I am Steve's daughter. I had the opportunity to meet my Great Uncle Peter for the first time about a week ago. We had a discussion about the Titanic, during which this website came up. I know very little about my father's side of the family and would love to hear anything about John and his family. I see some of my cousins have posted comments to this page already - this is so interesting! Thanks to all who have offered bits of info on my great Grandfather (eg. obituary, photo of his grave site). Uncle Peter said he thought that John took much of his Titanic memorabilia back to England with him when he last visited his daughter (Joan or Nora?) in 1952. Included were supposedly some photos from the rescue area about the Carpathia. Has anyone seen any of this? thanks! kelly
 
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Hello everyone, my name is Steve Hardy. Kelly is my daughter. I too am a grandson of John Hardy. I recently met with My Uncle Peter Hardy who is John Hardy's son. He stated to me that john hardy died in the house I lived in as a child in Maplewood New Jersey. Unfortunately I was only six years old at the time of his death and have no recollection of him whatsoever. I f anyone has any more information about John Hardy it would be much appreciated. I can tell you he had two sons, Peter and my father Ronald, both of whom served in the US Navy. There was also a daughter Joan, who I vaguely remember.
 

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