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Message: [QUOTE="Cam Houseman, post: 451232, member: 175670"] I was wondering, do we know Joughin was always being truthful? For example, his claim of water in the "Confectioner and 2nd Baker" room on E-Deck, just aft of the forward Engine Room Bulkhead (Bulkhead K). BOT Testimony: 6209. You said when you went down to the pantry that you saw some water there. Did I understand you rightly about that? - When I went down to my quarters. 6210. Which deck is that on? - E deck. 6211. What time was this? - After 1 o'clock. [B][I]The Commissioner:[/I][/B] How long before the vessel went down? 6212. ([I]The Solicitor-General.[/I]) You suggested he said that he saw some water. I thought he said he went to get a drink of water? - I went to the pantry, I said, to get a drink of water. 6293. And the water that you are talking about was on the port side of your room? - Yes, the extreme port side. 6294. Did the water extend over the whole of the floor of your room? - Oh, yes, but the bulk of it was on the port side. 6295. You have said it was deep enough to come to your ankles; Where was it deep enough to come to your ankles? - On the port side. 6296. On the side which was nearest amidships, what water was there there? - I could not say, but I suppose a fraction less, that is all. 6297. ([I]Mr. Laing.[/I]) Was there enough to wet your feet, and that sort of thing? - Yes, that is all. 6298. You have told us that you saw some men coming along to close the watertight doors on the alleyway? - Yes. I wonder if this was earlier than Joughin says, and he added the water in to give it a dramatic effect. 6329. Did you see or believe that more water was coming in while you were standing there? - I could not see any coming; I did not know where it came from at all. 6330. Had your cabin a coaming? - A very small one; less than two inches. 6333. Did you return to that same deck at all, or was it your last visit? - That was my last visit. 6334. And you told me you did not see water on that deck anywhere else? - Nowhere else. If his estimate was true, it being 1:30, what about Wheat who said that the water was up near the Portside doorway to the E-Deck Landing of the Staircase by around 1:00-1:20am? Where did this idea that Joughin was drunk come from, as well? In his testimony, all he says that he went to get a drink of the water. What are you all's idea on this? Not to mention his Stern capsizing testimony, while Dillion and Prentice specifically said the Stern levelled out. [/QUOTE]

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