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Kas01
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So far as I'm aware, John Thayer II played lacrosse for U Penn when he was a student there. Were there any other Titanic passengers who played at any level?
Jason D. Tiller
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Thayer's father was captain of his lacrosse team for the University of Pennsylvania, in 1879.
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Kas01
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Bizarrely enough, UPenn lists a club team as far back as 1890, but nothing prior to that date. They didn't have a varsity team until 1900.
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Robert T. Paige
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Was there any thing about a tennis team or tennis players being aboard Titanic ?
Other than John Thayer ?
Just wondering if John Thayer, the tennis player from UPenn, ever met Gifford Rogers, the tennis player from Purdue on Titanic ? LOL.
Seriously, though, I wonder if the Gifford Rogers fictional character might have been based on John Thayer, the real character ?
Did John Thayer ever dine at The Captain's Table ?
If you will accept my apologies for this bit of trivial nonsense: ???
I had an idea for a sequel to the 1997 "Titanic".:
In later years, Mr. and Mrs. Benjamin Franklin Calvert (Ben and Rose ) meeet Mr.and Mrs.Gifford Rogers (Gifford and Annette) and the children of their families on the Maiden Voyage of RMS Queen Mary in May, 1936.
Rose and the twin teen-age boys, Thomas A. and Edward S., meet Gene Autry, Smiley Burnette, Kay Hughes and William Newell on the set at the Texas Centennial Exposition in Dallas for "The Big Show" in September, 1936.
They also meet Gloria Stuart and Shiirley Temple in Hollywod on the set of "Rebecca Of Sunnnybrook Farm" in 1938.
The last lines in "the movie":
Brock Lovett : "Is there anything you would like, Mrs.Calvert ?"
Old Rose : " Yes ! I would like to see my drawing !"
The End
Other than John Thayer ?
Just wondering if John Thayer, the tennis player from UPenn, ever met Gifford Rogers, the tennis player from Purdue on Titanic ? LOL.
Seriously, though, I wonder if the Gifford Rogers fictional character might have been based on John Thayer, the real character ?
Did John Thayer ever dine at The Captain's Table ?
If you will accept my apologies for this bit of trivial nonsense: ???
I had an idea for a sequel to the 1997 "Titanic".:
In later years, Mr. and Mrs. Benjamin Franklin Calvert (Ben and Rose ) meeet Mr.and Mrs.Gifford Rogers (Gifford and Annette) and the children of their families on the Maiden Voyage of RMS Queen Mary in May, 1936.
Rose and the twin teen-age boys, Thomas A. and Edward S., meet Gene Autry, Smiley Burnette, Kay Hughes and William Newell on the set at the Texas Centennial Exposition in Dallas for "The Big Show" in September, 1936.
They also meet Gloria Stuart and Shiirley Temple in Hollywod on the set of "Rebecca Of Sunnnybrook Farm" in 1938.
The last lines in "the movie":
Brock Lovett : "Is there anything you would like, Mrs.Calvert ?"
Old Rose : " Yes ! I would like to see my drawing !"
The End
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Kas01
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Mr. Paige, so far as I know, Titanic's first class was a metaphorical who's-who of American tennis players. John Thayer II, not Jack Thayer, is the only one I know that played lacrosse, but I don't know if either John or Jack Thayer played tennis.
I do know that Karl Behr was ranked #3 in the United States and beat an Aussie team in the 1907 Davis Cup doubles championship, and apparently Maddie Astor won the ladies' singles national title in 1914 in addition to making the junior doubles tournament semifinals in 1910. But I don't know if either Thayer played tennis, and I don't know if any of John Thayer II's lacrosse records survive, for that matter.
I do know that Karl Behr was ranked #3 in the United States and beat an Aussie team in the 1907 Davis Cup doubles championship, and apparently Maddie Astor won the ladies' singles national title in 1914 in addition to making the junior doubles tournament semifinals in 1910. But I don't know if either Thayer played tennis, and I don't know if any of John Thayer II's lacrosse records survive, for that matter.
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Robert T. Paige
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Thanks Kaos1-
Just a bit of confusion on my part ?
Were John Thayer II and Jack Thayer two different persons ?
O.K. I think I found the answer if wikie is right ? :
John Thayer III ("Jack") , who survived, was the 17-year old son of John Thayer II , his father , who did not survive.
I couldn't find anything as to whether "Jack" was a tennis or lacrosse player.
But I think I did read somewhere that he was a tennis player.
Did any of those ? - Whatever names they might have been ?- Ever sit at Titanic's Captain's
Table ?
Just a bit of confusion on my part ?
Were John Thayer II and Jack Thayer two different persons ?
O.K. I think I found the answer if wikie is right ? :
John Thayer III ("Jack") , who survived, was the 17-year old son of John Thayer II , his father , who did not survive.
I couldn't find anything as to whether "Jack" was a tennis or lacrosse player.
But I think I did read somewhere that he was a tennis player.
Did any of those ? - Whatever names they might have been ?- Ever sit at Titanic's Captain's
Table ?
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Kas01
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John Thayer II very well might have. I don't know for sure but I think at some point I read that he was an acquaintance of Captain Smith.
Considering that Jack Thayer ate alone with Milton Long on the 14th, I doubt that he sat at the Captain's table.
Considering that Jack Thayer ate alone with Milton Long on the 14th, I doubt that he sat at the Captain's table.
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Robert T. Paige
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Maybe John Thayer II did but John Thayer III did not ? Ah ! but Gifford did ! LOL
- Off Topic a bit. :
- But I wonder if all those portrayed as sitting at Captain's Table , at least in the 1953 and 1997 "Titanic"''s , was accurate ? ....such as the Astor's in the 1953.....I suppose Richard Sturges' fictional status and background would have included him.....How about young Norman Sturges....too young ?.......Thomas Andrews, Margaret (not Molly !) Brown and others in the 1997 ? .....Of course , Thomas Andrews wasn't even in the 1953 version, nor was J. Bruce Ismay......And "Maude Young" (1953) was "a thinly disguised Mrs. Brown".
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Kas01
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We're way the hell off topic by this point.
Surprisingly, despite the modern day perception that lacrosse is a prep school game in the States, in Canada it was considered a working man's sport. Damn shame because I thought Harry Molson and Major Peuchen both played.
Surprisingly, despite the modern day perception that lacrosse is a prep school game in the States, in Canada it was considered a working man's sport. Damn shame because I thought Harry Molson and Major Peuchen both played.
