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Hi All,

I just got back from vacationing in Las Vegas, and upon entering the infamous Flamingo Casino/Resort, I noticed a Titanic slot machine. I was taken back for a minute. I considered it to be in bad taste. I guess it's just another way to make money off of the misfortune of this great ship. What do you all think about this?

Eric
 

ian Hough

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Depends on what you describe as bad taste - Would it have been in bad taste to sell postcards of the twin-towers on Sept 11th - the way they sold post cards of the Titanic in 1912 - or postcards of any other 20th century disasters?
 
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It's obvious that postcards for a dollar and a slot machine where you can lose your life savings in a minute are two different things. Maybe I should clarify. The more credis you received, the greater chance the ship would "sink" or "payoff"
 

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I totally disagree with gambling - but whether you lose your life saving on a slot machine with the Titanic on it, or anything else on it, makes no difference. Once you've lost your money you're broke anyway. And as for taste should anyone be in a gambling den in Las-vagas in the first place?
 
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This site is to remember the Titanic, and if you want to spend your time on here being ignorant to the fact that people can do whatever they want to be happy, then you're surely in the wrong place. Don't tell me what is in good taste, maybe having 8 children isn't the best of taste either, limits you know. Enough is enough, I meant no harm when I posted this message, but when people need to comment on where I chose to vacation, the line is crossed. Maybe if you lived in the United States, you'd realize how nice it is to live in such a free country.
 

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I meant no disrespect to where you vacate - you asked for comments......

" I was taken back for a minute. I considered it to be in bad taste. I guess it's just another way to make money off of the misfortune of this great ship. What do you all think about this?"

To which I passed on my comment and asked the question " Depends on what you describe as bad taste" no offence intended at all!

But I guess you now answered both our questions "Maybe if you lived in the United States, you'd realize how nice it is to live in such a free country."

If people wish to make money off of the misfortune of this great ship they are free to do so after all it is a free country.

P.S. The United Kingdom is a free country

And after this I shall say no more except, that I meant no harm either.
 
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Moderators hat on for just a sec. Okay guys...let's take it easy and nip this one in the bud befor somebody says something they'll regret.

And now doffing my moderator's hat, good and bad taste is a matter of some rather subjective opinion. I don't have a problem with somebody trying to turn a buck on something per se, but if I don't like what's offered, I don't buy the product.

That's a freedom we all enjoy regardless of what country we live in. Use it liberally.
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While I was in Halifax in April 2001, I went to the Casino there and noticed a Titanic slot machine. I wasn't bothered by it at all, and in fact I even put some money in it a couple of times, but I didn't win. It didn't matter to me, since I don't gamble that often anyways.

As Michael stated, we all have to decide for ourselves what crosses the line and what doesn't. It's that simple.

Best regards,

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I was also in Halifax, in April 2001. I saw the Titanic machine, and I was not offended by it; even gave it a try, and won ~$10 on it, which is more than I usually win, whenever I go to either Reno or "Lost Wages", as I call it.
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And yes, I also saw it at the MGM Grand Hotel Casino, in Las Vegas. I tried it, didn't do well, and walked away. BTW, I was briefly in Vegas, this last May. The Titanic machines are no longer at the MGM.

I saw the machine not as a tacky rip-off, but just another movie tie-in.

For me, I don't gamble that often, as I often find I can easily lose 40-hours pay in 1 hour; no thanks.

What is acceptable and tacky is for each of us to decide, as Michael and Jason have stated.

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titanic pokies?? eeewww very bad taste!! but each to his own i guess i see it as just a hook to get people to spend more money in "the one armed bandits" & sadly i think if we were all here in another 90 years we would see wtc pokies too i just hope i'm not here to see that
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Eric. Last summer I had to audit a Krispy Kreme inside Spa Casino in Palm Springs and they had a 1.00 Titanic slot machine. I would play a little when I was in there, but Ole EJ never once paid off. I gasped when I first saw him and exclaimed "EJ, What are you doing in here?" You should have seen the people turn and stare as if I just found my husband in the casino spending our last dollar from the cookie jar. It was removed about 3 months later because it was not very popular.
One game I really enjoy playing is "Bewitched". I don't think it is in bad taste to play the game, although all the players, except Dr Bombay, Tabitha and Adam (hey, there IS a Titanic connection!) have since died.
As for vacation in Las Vegas, well why not? The Titanic connection is there too. Clark County Nevada was named after Walter Miller Clark's uncle, who pretty well started Las Vegas, and was very instrumental in bringing the railroad into Southern California and the harbor area where Walter's dad owned a business, and where Walter worked!
What many don't realize is that there are allot of other things to do besides gamble, and if you do gamble, be willing to spend a certain amount of money and WALK AWAY WHEN IT IS GONE!!! Did you see any of the museums, or exhibits while there? Bonnie and Clydes car? Ripleys museum? Liberace's museum? Indian artifact museum? Hoover Dam? Red Rock Canyon? Star Trek Experience? The Blue Angels training at Nellis AFB? The place where Tupak was shot?(Actually kidding there, but you get the point.) No matter what you did,(as long as it was legal and moral) I hope you enjoyed your stay.
I have family members and several friends in law enforcement for downtown Las Vegas, and have had to work in the Vegas area, but I personally had a ball. The family went sightseeing and we have fond memories of the week we were there of seeing museums, visiting relatives, eating prime rib and shrimp, and swimming in the pool in the winter.
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Hi Colleen,

I didn't realize there was a Titanic connection to the Vegas area, thanks for sharing!
You are very much right in saying there is much more to do there than gamble. My family and I traveled there not to gamble, but to spend New Years a little different this year. The city was expecting 310,000 people so we stayed in the hotel and watched the fire works out of our window. The police told my father he would be trampled had he ventured out.
I must say that I was amazed at how handicapped accessible Vegas is. My father is legally handicapped and is wheel-chair bound, and we didn't go to one place that didn't cater to the handicapped. We did spend a short time gambling, but the majority of our visit was spent just going up and down the strip and marevling at the hotels, which are a masterpiece in their own way. We saw many different shows, toured some of the museums like Ripley's, the wax museum, Liberace and a few others. The Hoover Dam was closed for security purposes, so we weren't able to see that, but we did take a nice tour of an old forest in the area. That was something niceto see.
One particular game I did have luck on, was the 'I Love Lucy' slots. I didn't see the Bewitched game, but I did see the I Dream of Jeannie ones. Respectively all cast members have died, but I guess it was my years of dedication watching Lucy with my grandmother that paid off.


About that prime rib and shrimp, the food was amazing. Buffet's were the way to go, and I can honestly said I had never had prime rib and other foods for breakfast until in Las Vegas. What was our breakfast, was other people's supper, if you look at it that way. Unfortunately I'm allergic to shellfish so I wasn't able to have any shrimp, etc. It was hard passing up all that seafood, I've never seen so many crab legs, haha.
It was a very enjoyable vacation. As long as you limit yourself and set up a budget, you'll have a great vacation. Thanks for the info Colleen!

Happy New Year Everyone!

Eric
 
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Thanks for that link Allen- I can't imagine what could possibly top this. I expect it will be popular, but it is sad to exploit a disaster for a gambling and vacation theme.

[Moderator's Note: This message and the one immediately above it have been moved to this pre-existing thread concerning Las Vegas. MAB]
 

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It's not for exploitation, it's for memorialization. But where else in the USA could it be? And where else has so many visitors?
 
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The way I see it, is if one person looks at the machine and is impacted in any way...we have won. It is more important for people to become educated in the Titanic disaster, and I cannot see how a simple slot machine is distasteful.
 
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This has the potential for some lively debate I can see. Well, just going by what I see on the site so far, the emphasis is much on gambling and they make no bones about it. A maritime tragedy and a pleasure destination for entertainment don't seem to have much in common. Using the public fascination with Titanic as the hook to get people to come out and peer at underwater wreck replicas while the roulette wheel spins is at best- unseemly, and at worst, irreverent. I expect like Foxwood Indian Casino, situated 8 miles from my home, they will put up some sort of museum and memorial to mask the $$$$ signs behind the real intent and give it all the air of legitimacy.
 
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>>But where else in the USA could it be?<<

Keep an eye on Branson Missouri.

Can't say as the casinos have any special appeal to me personally, but I'll reserve judgement until I have an opportunity to see it for myself.
 

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My question, of course, is "Where is this Casino/Hotel/Condo Project going to be located"? Is it set to be south of Mandalay Bay, east of the Flamingo Hilton & MGM Grand, north of the Stratosphere, near the Orleans, or near Sams Town and (I believe) Silver Station?
To those not familiar with Las Vegas, I just listed the basic boundaries of the big gambling areas.

I would like to know the eventual location of the property, even I do not visit the City in the near future.

I also think that it might have been better to have designed a Casino around "The Great Ships of Yesterday" (Mauretania, Imperator, Europa, Olympic, Queen Mary, Normandie, Ille De France, etc).
IMHO, this Titanic project is not very clever. Just because the Titanic is synonomous with sea tragedies does not make it a good reason to name a Casino for the ship. Yes, I know we can think of other sea tragedies (including war-related ones) that would be worse to depict. However, it is much more fun when not gambling to be reminded of places (the Eiffel Tower), things (penguins, tropical birds, and flamingos) and themes that are more likely to cause one to smile. Just my $0.02 worth.