Lifeboats Historical Accuracy Of Occupants In Each Boat


Mick Molloy

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What are the primary data sources ascribing individuals to specific lifeboats? I am especially interested in how secure this information is for; Annie Kate Kelly, Delia McDermott and Anna McGowan; all from Addergoole in Ireland.

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"1. Minimum number saved according to Board of Trade before inquiry: 703
2. Number saved according to Captain Rostron : 705
3. Official number saved according to British Inquiry Report: 711
4.Number saved on official White Star list published 10 April 1912 : 757
5.Total number saved according to White Star list , inquiry witnesses, newspaper statements and lists transmitted by Carpathia : 803

-"The Titanic Conspiracy", by Robin Gardiner and Dan Van Der Vat; Appendix I; Page 282
 

Dave Gittins

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The primary sources for individuals are the two inquiries, which account for a limited number of people. Then comes Colonel Gracie's book, which adds material from interviews and letters. Lawrence Beesley provides more.

After that, there are newspaper accounts, personal letters and so forth.

In the case of the Irish people you mention, local Irish papers may have carried their stories. Try to get hold of Senan Molony's The Irish Aboard the Titanic. This was carefully researched and includes the Irish sources.
 

Mick Molloy

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Thank you Robert and Dave for your replies. I have read most of the local contemporary reporting of the time, and both papers ( Western People & Connaught Telegraph) make no reference to the boats these three were in.

I recall reading what I thought was quite a detailed piece of work, where each boat was analysed. I think this was done by a retired journalist in USA, but not certain. Would be grateful if anyone has the reference. That piece of work did not allocate the three to any boats.

Any more help would be most welcome.

Mick Molloy
 

Dave Gittins

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Peter Engberg-Klarstrom places Kelly in collapsible D and McDermott in boat 13. I don't know his sources and he hasn't got McGowan.
 

Mick Molloy

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Thank you Dave. Surprised about the Annie Kate Kelly boat, but Delia
McDermott's matches up, it was the 2nd boat she went to, left the first to
get her hat! Can you please let me your source for Peter Engberg-Klarstrom
lifeboat passenger listings. Are they on this site?

Thank you

Mick
 
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All the lifeboat assignment Lists I have seen have Annie Kate Kelly in boat 16 and Mary Kelly in boat D.

In her: Manifest of the Lifeboats, Kyrila has Anna McGowan in boat 13.

Lester
 

Kyrila Scully

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I still lurk around, Lester. Hello, boys! Lester has chided me for not keeping better notes on my research, and he taught me quite a lot, so I'm afraid I can't recall how it was I managed to place Anna McGowan in Boat 13, and after five moves in the last two years, I don't know where the research is at the moment to go through and see if I can locate it. However, I can tell you that Lee Merideth, who published an almost identical book to my own (in format) called TITANIC NAMES, also places young Miss McGowan in Boat 13, traveling with her Aunt Katherine McGowan. (That may be the clue as to how we arrived at the boat number!)

My book is no longer available because of an agreement between Mr. Merideth and myself.

Kyrila
 

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