Lifeboats & survivors could this happen again

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Attila the Germ you mean? Well, we've already discussed how things have gone sour over the past year or so. Given the problems the cruise industry had filling cabins post 9-11, this was a turn of events that they really didn't need.

I shudder to think what would happen if something really virulant got loose on board. Even the largest vessel with the best medical facilities could be turned into a ghost ship in a week...or less.
I'd still love to take a trans-Atlantic cruise any day! Or maybe go to Barbados and Aruba. Or even to Ile de Morte with Capt. Jack.


Erik Wood

Amen brother David, Amen!!!!

If I didn't know any better I would think that he was a passenger boat Captain.

Paying attention during a boat drill and learning where exits are and how to properly put on a lifejacket will save your life. If you and I where on a sinking ship, I would know things based on the actions of the crew that you wouldn't. But common sense tells you when the ghost gives up the ship. If you know where things are when things are good, you will remeber where things are when things are bad.

Disasters at sea will always happen as long as there is a ship on the sea. You can't control mother nature, you can build something to try to with stand nature, but when mother ocean wants you she will have you.

Dave makes a great point, ocean travel is far safer then it was 90 years ago. There are so many regulations and laws in place that ocean travel is probably safer then vehicular travel on a mass scale. Let me say that when I say ocean travel, I mean on a well run ship.

To some extent shipboard gallies have to follow more strict guidelines then restraunts and the penalties can be twice as stiff. Ask the QE2, or the Norway or the Carnival Conquest.
Just found all this. Bit late, but never mind. Never been on a cruise ship, but I can tell you I never feel very safe on European ro-ro ferries. Two nights across the Bay of Biscay to Spain on a huge thing with no real decks to speak of (keep the customers inside and they spend money..); God knows where the lifeboats actually were, no drill; and trapped in a tiny cabin below the car deck which has no bulkheads. Remember the Estonia?
Don't forget the Harald of Free Enterprise. The only difference was that on the Harald, the doors were accidentally left open whereas with the Estonia, the beast appears to have fallen off.

a)Enter water stage right,
b)Enter free surface effect rendering ship unstable stage left,
c)Add several thousand tons more water befor anybody had any idea what was happening.
d)Ship rolls over.
e)Goodbye cruel world!
I saw the Herald when I sailed from Zebrugge a week after she sank (shallow water, only half submerged on her side). Everyone went very quiet as we passed her. For those who hope they would help others (above) there was a very brave young man who, finding himself above the rising waterline with others below, in the diningroom, managed to make himself into a sort of bridge/ladder so that others could heave themselves up and crawl across him. Mind you, seeing that wasn't as bad as what you saw on the Patras-Brindisi crossing in the 1970s - burt-out ferries rusting, masts poking above the waterline further out, your ship weaving its way through - made you wonder what on earth had been going on. And Greek inter-island boats were quite stimulating then too. One ancient hulk I sailed on just loaded up until there were no more people, goats, chickens etc. on the quayside and then wallowed off into the stormy night with the Captain singing 'Che sera, sera, whatever will be will be' from the bridge.
Overloaded ferries! Now there's a common problem for you...and it's one of the big reasons why ferry accidents frequently result in a high loss of life. Put too many people on a craft until it's way overloaded and then sail out into the teeth of a storm.

The consequences are all too predictable, and it haapens all the time!
Yes. I have it in mind that the Philipines are particularly bad at over-loading ferries. Didn't they have the worst peacetime death toll a few years ago when a ferry collided and caught fire. It had an official limit of 2000 and when all the missing able-bodied young had been reported, it was estimated that 4000+ had died? Re my Greek ferry, well - obviously - we got there although I remember one woman lost a few chickens over the side. I remember it had a plimsoll line which I watched in alarm as it disappeared beneath the water in harbour during loading. Most of the Greeks went below, but the tourists stayed put grimly on deck, soaked, but feeling slightly safer.
I don't know offhand about the Phillipines. They've had some real doozies though. The Far East seems to love to overload ferries. Bangladesh also has some ferry losses that are particularly nasty. It's very rare that some sort of ferry accident isn't mentioned on the CargoLaw Website in any given month.
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