Lightoller's pocket watch.

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Vanessa Nell Ruiz

Vanessa Nell Ruiz

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Hello everyone!.

Looking at images on Google I came across this pocket watch that belonged to 2nd Officer Charles Lightoller and was wondering if anyone knows the whereabouts of this little watch today.

Thank you so much, since now.

Vanessa.
 

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Dan Parkes

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I am sorry to say that this watch is almost undoubtedly not Lightoller's.

He testified at the US Inquiry:

Senator SMITH. Of course you had a watch with you?
Mr. LIGHTOLLER. No, sir.
Senator SMITH. Did you have a watch in your room?
Mr. LIGHTOLLER. In my room; yes, sir.
Senator SMITH. Did you keep it or is it gone?
Mr. LIGHTOLLER. Oh, it is gone, sir.
 
Vanessa Nell Ruiz

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Oh, what a shame! Thanks for your clarification Dan.

Best regards.
 
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Mark Baber

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The fact that it's not the watch he had on Titanic doesn't preclude the possibility that he owned this watch at some earlier or later time.
 
Vanessa Nell Ruiz

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The fact that it's not the watch he had on Titanic doesn't preclude the possibility that he owned this watch at some earlier or later time.
Hello Mark.

Your argument makes sense, but do you have any information or evidence you can provide to prove the veracity of that possibility?.
 
Dan Parkes

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The fact that it's not the watch he had on Titanic doesn't preclude the possibility that he owned this watch at some earlier or later time.
Yes, of course, although it is shown with the hands "frozen" at 2:20am, like so many Titanic watches are, and so is clearly pitched to potential buyers as being from the disaster.

However, an analysis by Steve Santini, George Behe, Spencer Knarr, and Tad Fitch concluded that at best we should "doubt its authenticity" (Behe) and that it is "suspicious" (Fitch). At worst, it is "fake" (Santini and Knarr).
 
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However, an analysis by Steve Santini, George Behe, Spencer Knarr, and Tad Fitch concluded that at best we should "doubt its authenticity" (Behe) and that it is "suspicious" (Fitch). At worst, it is "fake" (Santini and Knarr).
An all-star lineup.
 
Vanessa Nell Ruiz

Vanessa Nell Ruiz

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Yes, of course, although it is shown with the hands "frozen" at 2:20am, like so many Titanic watches are, and so is clearly pitched to potential buyers as being from the disaster.

However, an analysis by Steve Santini, George Behe, Spencer Knarr, and Tad Fitch concluded that at best we should "doubt its authenticity" (Behe) and that it is "suspicious" (Fitch). At worst, it is "fake" (Santini and Knarr).
Dan, do you know where I can find the analyses done by these people you mention?.
 
Vanessa Nell Ruiz

Vanessa Nell Ruiz

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I've collated information on the watch for several years and have been working on an article that will be added to the titanicofficers.com website in due course.
I will keep an eye on your website then.

Thank you very much, again. Best regards.

Vanessa.
 
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