Lusitania crew member J Ormandy


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Jeff Jones

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Hello
I have a very specific interest in the Lusitania and I am hoping that somebody on this list can help me - I hope it was OK for me to join the list for this purpose. The interest I have is J. Ormandy. Ormandy is my mother's maiden name and I am researching her family tree - this has also led me to collect Ormandy data in general. If J. Ormandy survived, it is possible he is my great grandfather (who was a marine fireman at some time) or maybe one of his sons who was also a seaman. They lived in Liverpool and both were alive several years after the disaster. J. Ormandy does not always appear on lists although he is on several web lists which indicate he was a crew member - a fireman, although I have found no indication of whether or not he survived. He is not in the Cunard book held at the maritime museum in Liverpool. Are you aware of any way I can find out more about his relationship with the Lusitania, or why he appears on some crew lists and not others?
Thanks, Jeff Jones in Herefordshire England, originally from Liverpool
 

Brian Meister

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Hello Jeff,

According to all information I have been
able to collect of the crew of the Lusitania,
there were two men whose surname was ORMROD
who were greasers on the ship. Both, sadly,
lost their lives in the sinking. Both men
were in their 40's.
James Ormrod: age 41
97 Robsart St, Liverpool
son of Thomas and Mary Ormrod
his brother: Thomas Ormrod
age 40
89a St Domingo Rd., Liverpool


James was married to Frances Power
Thomas was married to Ann Jane Evans


Hope this clears up your search!

Regards,

Brian
 
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Jeff Jones

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Thank you for checking this out for me Brian. The Ormandy name can appear in various forms and the addresses you give are very close to where 'my' Ormandys lived in Everton. But on some lists I have seen the two unfortunate Ormrods appear as well as J Ormandy, so I suppose his fate is still a mystery. If only the comprehensive information you have provided were available for him ....
Best wishes and thanks again, Jeff
 

Brian Meister

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Hello Jeff,

There is also a John Orange who was lost,
but since you seem certain of the surname, I
do not suppose he could be the one.
In my experience tracking merchant seamen,
I have also found instances where an alias
was employed to hide the gentleman from a
disgruntled wife or companion he left behind,
or financial arragements he was skirting.
Not to impune the character of your relative,
but it may be possible he changed his name
while at sea. The are a dozen or so cases of
this in the Lusitania crew manifests, but the
name Ormandy is not one of those.
Sorry not to be of more assistance to you.

Regards,

Brian
 
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Jeff Jones

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Thanks again Brian. Maybe he did use an assumed name or maybe he didn't make the voyage. His name seems to have come from the list published in the New York Times shortly after the disaster - as this didn't mention that he was a fireman that information must have come from somewhere else. He is mentioned in this message board - I found him by searching for Ormandy. I suppose I'll never know what happened which is a shame.
Cheers, Jeff
 
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A great niece of the Ormrod brothers used to work for me a number of years ago. She still attends the annual rememberence service held at the Albert Dock each year, although she knew very little about the brothers.
 
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