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Message: [QUOTE="Inger Sheil, post: 45650, member: 139659"] Senan at no point has questioned whether placards were placed around the [i]Lusitania[/i] memorial. The issues you differ on are whether these constitute a 'desecration', and whether these were targeted specifically at the [i]Lusitania[/i] because of a perceived Englishness. You have indicated that you are operating from a memory of something you read 24 years ago. Can you tell me exactly what those placards said? Verbatim? You are the one making the allegations - the onus of proof is upon you, however high-handedly you demand that Senan research your remembered observations. Senan has already pointed out the very apt analogy of the Nelson memorial and its role in a range of protests, and I would further extend the analogy to include D.C. memorials in America. The memorial/monument distinction is completely specious - these structures are both memorials [i]and[/i] monuments. If you had been to Cobh - and I assume you have - you would be aware that the [i]Lusitania[/i] memorial occupies a central place in a square off the high street. It is the most prominent local site suited for a protest or demonstration, including the civil rights demonstrations of 20 odd years ago. It is a natural focal point for protests. Have you been to Cobh and asked local people what their memory of placards that went up [i]25 years ago[/i] is? If not, why do you presume to anticipate their reaction? 'Reiterative prolixity' - exceedingly tedious at that - pretty much sums up what your repetitious posting on this subject has become. Everyone else who has participated in this thread - Senan Molony included - has being trying to discuss the [i]Lusitania[/i] commemorative ceremonies. You have shown no interest in doing so. You, instead, focus on your own disputed interpretation of a past incident, basing your posts on something you remember reading about decades ago. If anyone here is dishonouring the memory of the [i]Lusitania[/i], it's not the civil rights demonstrators of the early eighties. It's [i]you[/i], Noel, by your insistant harping on this issue. Get over it and move on. As matters stand, [i]you[/i] are dishonouring both the dead and the living. [/QUOTE]

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