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Philip Hind
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Marian Meanwell : Titanic Victim
Biography of Marian Meanwell : Titanic Victim
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John Morris
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I think this is a very nice and informative site. The only thing I would like to see is information on Marion Ogden Meanwell, a third class passenger. Thank you for creating a great website.
John Morris
Richmond, United States
John Morris
Richmond, United States
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diana westen
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I have recently found this site. I believe my father's sister was on the Titanic. Her name was Marian Meanwell. I was told many years ago she was a nurse in England, and was coming to the usa with her charge. I have not been able to verify any information about the passenger with this name on the Titanic. If anyone has any info please email me at [email protected].
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Marjorie June Jamieson
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Hi,I have just found out,that a "Marian Meanwell" was a passenger on the illfated "Titanic"My maiden name was Meanwell,and I believe I could be related to her somewhere,and would like any information,on her and her family,please
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Bob Godfrey
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Hallo, Marjorie, and welcome to ET. Meanwell is not a very common name but I fear the chances of being related on that basis alone are not strong unless you know of another connection? Here, however, is some info on the lady in question:
'Marion' Meanwell's name has become better known recently following the recovery and exhibition of her alligator-skin handbag and contents from the wreck site. It's an interesting reflection of the social climate of the time that the lady who described herself as a widow called Marion or Marian was actually separated from her husband by distance rather than death and her name was Mary Anne. Mary Anne Ogden was born in Lancashire in 1848 and was briefly married to Thomas Meanwell, a draper's assistant from Coningsby in Lincolnshire, a man slightly younger than herself. After the separation one of the couple's two children, Walter, was brought up by his father's family and lost contact with Mary, but their daughter Margaret remained with her mother. A third child, Margaret's twin Annie, had died at an early age. Margaret would later emigrate to the USA where she found employment as a dancer with a circus troupe. Widowed while still in her 30s and left with two young children, Margaret was given the prospect of returning to work when Mary/Marion offered to move to New York and look after the children. Perhaps she was motivated by sad memories of the break-up of her own family. Tragically, these plans came to nothing when she died on the Titanic. Her body was never recovered.
Mary's ex, Thomas Meanwell, settled in Louth in Lincolnshire where he too claimed to be widowed and found employment (and lodging) with draper George Ranshaw. He is said to have later remarried, hopefully not before obtaining a divorce from his 'dead' wife Mary/Marion who was still very much alive at the time.
If you do have a blood relationship with Mary Anne it could only be through her son Walter. After the separation he lived for some period with his grandparents in Louth. Where he ended up is debatable, but I think at the turn of the century he was working as a greengrocer in Manchester, where his father by then was in the same line of work.
'Marion' Meanwell's name has become better known recently following the recovery and exhibition of her alligator-skin handbag and contents from the wreck site. It's an interesting reflection of the social climate of the time that the lady who described herself as a widow called Marion or Marian was actually separated from her husband by distance rather than death and her name was Mary Anne. Mary Anne Ogden was born in Lancashire in 1848 and was briefly married to Thomas Meanwell, a draper's assistant from Coningsby in Lincolnshire, a man slightly younger than herself. After the separation one of the couple's two children, Walter, was brought up by his father's family and lost contact with Mary, but their daughter Margaret remained with her mother. A third child, Margaret's twin Annie, had died at an early age. Margaret would later emigrate to the USA where she found employment as a dancer with a circus troupe. Widowed while still in her 30s and left with two young children, Margaret was given the prospect of returning to work when Mary/Marion offered to move to New York and look after the children. Perhaps she was motivated by sad memories of the break-up of her own family. Tragically, these plans came to nothing when she died on the Titanic. Her body was never recovered.
Mary's ex, Thomas Meanwell, settled in Louth in Lincolnshire where he too claimed to be widowed and found employment (and lodging) with draper George Ranshaw. He is said to have later remarried, hopefully not before obtaining a divorce from his 'dead' wife Mary/Marion who was still very much alive at the time.
If you do have a blood relationship with Mary Anne it could only be through her son Walter. After the separation he lived for some period with his grandparents in Louth. Where he ended up is debatable, but I think at the turn of the century he was working as a greengrocer in Manchester, where his father by then was in the same line of work.
Brian J. Ticehurst
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Marjorie and Bob,
Here is a couple more items about Mrs. M I have just posted them on the main obit.
Meanwell, Mrs. Marian nee Ogden. Missing. Milliner. Aged 63 years.
(From the Whitehaven News, of Thursday, May 2nd, 1912).
MILLOM'S CONNECTION WITH THE TITANIC DISASTER
THE widespread effects of the Titanic disaster is evidenced by the fact that Mrs. Beck of Cambridge Street, Millom, (Cumberland) had a relative aboard the ill-fated vessel.
Mrs. Meanwell, first cousin of Mrs. Beck, who was proceeding on the Titanic to join her daughter in America. She had often crossed the Atlantic previously, and according to a letter dispatched to Mrs. Beck from Queenstown, was delighted with the new gigantic vessel.
In her views, nothing approaching the accommodation had been experienced in any of the previous journeys, and nothing but a very pleasant voyage was anticipated.
There appears to be little hope that Mrs. Meanwell had escaped the fate which befell so many of the Titanic passengers, as her name does not appear, so far, amongst those who have been saved.
From The Emergency and Relief booklet by the American Red Cross, 1913).
Case number 302. (English). A mother, sixty-three years of age, was drowned, while coming to this country to make her home with her daughter, whose husband had recently died, leaving two children aged six and two years. These children were to have been cared for by their grandmother while their mother was at work. She was a ballet dancer in a circus. She has now left the circus and is employed where she can have her children with her. Accident insurance amounting to $500 was paid to the daughter, and she received $350 from other American relief funds. This money has been placed in the bank for the care of the children. The local Charity Organisation Society will continue its oversight of the welfare of the children.
Best regards
Brian J. Ticehurst - Southampton UK.
Here is a couple more items about Mrs. M I have just posted them on the main obit.
Meanwell, Mrs. Marian nee Ogden. Missing. Milliner. Aged 63 years.
(From the Whitehaven News, of Thursday, May 2nd, 1912).
MILLOM'S CONNECTION WITH THE TITANIC DISASTER
THE widespread effects of the Titanic disaster is evidenced by the fact that Mrs. Beck of Cambridge Street, Millom, (Cumberland) had a relative aboard the ill-fated vessel.
Mrs. Meanwell, first cousin of Mrs. Beck, who was proceeding on the Titanic to join her daughter in America. She had often crossed the Atlantic previously, and according to a letter dispatched to Mrs. Beck from Queenstown, was delighted with the new gigantic vessel.
In her views, nothing approaching the accommodation had been experienced in any of the previous journeys, and nothing but a very pleasant voyage was anticipated.
There appears to be little hope that Mrs. Meanwell had escaped the fate which befell so many of the Titanic passengers, as her name does not appear, so far, amongst those who have been saved.
From The Emergency and Relief booklet by the American Red Cross, 1913).
Case number 302. (English). A mother, sixty-three years of age, was drowned, while coming to this country to make her home with her daughter, whose husband had recently died, leaving two children aged six and two years. These children were to have been cared for by their grandmother while their mother was at work. She was a ballet dancer in a circus. She has now left the circus and is employed where she can have her children with her. Accident insurance amounting to $500 was paid to the daughter, and she received $350 from other American relief funds. This money has been placed in the bank for the care of the children. The local Charity Organisation Society will continue its oversight of the welfare of the children.
Best regards
Brian J. Ticehurst - Southampton UK.
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Marjorie June Jamieson
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Hi,Brian and Bob,sorry its taken me a few days to get back to you,I'm learning the computer,a bit late in life,anyway I had to wait for my son to show me how to answer your notes,thank you both ever so much,the reason I thought Mary Ann Meanwell was a distant relation,was because,our Father always told us that all the "Meanwells" were related.I believe it came from the Danes when they invaded England,I do have others helping me to do our Family Tree,My Father's Father came from England,at the end of the 1880s,and settled in Queensland Australia,then went on to New South Wales,where I live.If you find out anymore please keep in touch with me as any information is appreciated,Regards Marjorie Jamieson,nee [email protected]
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Iain Stuart Yardley
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Relatives of Marion Meanwell have been visiting the Artefacts Exhibition in Manchester to see belongings of their ancestor on display. Interesting to note that at the time of sailing, Marion had only £3 in the bank.
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/141/141675_family_link_to_titanic_tragedy.html
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/141/141675_family_link_to_titanic_tragedy.html
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George Simmons
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Mother of Marian Meanwell was Ann Dolan, not Armstrong. Armstrong was first husband's name.
