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Bob Godfrey
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Yes, Dave, but we at least have figured out that when it's Christmas it must be winter. Unlike some I could mention. 
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>>>Unlike some I could mention. I know precisely what you mean Bob.
I am constantly remind that the weather is bright and boiling hot 'down under'.
Yee Gods, it make ya sick to listen to it, especially during the long break cold winter months in Britain. Some people certainly how to rub your nose in it.
Still Bob, look at it this way, we're starting to get longer days and it won't be long before we'll be having the long hot boiling days ahead us.
Remember the motto Bob - The sun would always set upon the British Empire.
I know precisely what you mean Bob. I am constantly remind that the weather is bright and boiling hot 'down under'.
Yee Gods, it make ya sick to listen to it, especially during the long break cold winter months in Britain. Some people certainly how to rub your nose in it.
Still Bob, look at it this way, we're starting to get longer days and it won't be long before we'll be having the long hot boiling days ahead us.
Remember the motto Bob - The sun would always set upon the British Empire.
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Bob Godfrey
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Not quite, Andrew - the sun supposedly never set on the British Empire! It just never got to shining very brightly on this bit. Moving to Oz is an attractive proposition, but these days it costs too much to get there. Not like in our parents' time, when you just needed to produce a tenner. Or in our great grandparents' time, when all you had to do was steal a loaf of bread.
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What can I say Bob. I was born in the wrong era, not quite though.
In fact, back in 1960 my family almost did move to Oz.
In fact, back in 1960 my family almost did move to Oz.
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Bryan Ciobanu
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Thank you all.
So Samuel, you are saying that both clocks showed the Ships time?, That does sound quite strange, why two clocks, a few feet away from each other, if they show the same time?
Do anybody have any idea about those two boxes next to one of the clocks?
Bryan.
So Samuel, you are saying that both clocks showed the Ships time?, That does sound quite strange, why two clocks, a few feet away from each other, if they show the same time?
Do anybody have any idea about those two boxes next to one of the clocks?
Bryan.
Samuel Halpern
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Bryan: One clock would surely have been on ship's time. The other I was speculating about since it is known that two master clocks were carried on board. If I am right, and I do say IF, then they both would show the same time. I was hoping that someone else may have more information about this.
Mark Chirnside
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Hi Sam,
The electro-magnetic master clock (on Olympic at least) was in the chart room. The clock did not show seconds, only minutes, and was in a weatherproof case. Captain Smith is on record as saying ‘when the minute hand comes to past the line of the minute, the effect is that the finger moves and that releases the contact, and the whole [hand] goes with a jump.’ Smith also said ‘We have two [master clocks]. They have a large system in the ship, and they put in two [clocks] to work the whole lot.’ That implies to me that they kept the same time and there were two clocks because of the number of clocks onboard. There was a wheelhouse clock too. I'm a bit of an idiot as far as this topic is concerned, that's the only information I have to hand -- make of it what you will.
Best wishes,
Mark.
The electro-magnetic master clock (on Olympic at least) was in the chart room. The clock did not show seconds, only minutes, and was in a weatherproof case. Captain Smith is on record as saying ‘when the minute hand comes to past the line of the minute, the effect is that the finger moves and that releases the contact, and the whole [hand] goes with a jump.’ Smith also said ‘We have two [master clocks]. They have a large system in the ship, and they put in two [clocks] to work the whole lot.’ That implies to me that they kept the same time and there were two clocks because of the number of clocks onboard. There was a wheelhouse clock too. I'm a bit of an idiot as far as this topic is concerned, that's the only information I have to hand -- make of it what you will.
Best wishes,
Mark.
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Bob Godfrey
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Am I right in thinking that in Bryan's linked photograph which shows the telephones and clock, the instrument in line with the telephones (which looks rather like another clock) is the barometer?
Samuel Halpern
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Mark: Thanks for the information with Smith's explanation. If I am right, the ship had 48 slave clocks work off these masters. I think I read somewhere that one of these masters could actually control up to 100 slaves, but that's another story.
Bob: You may be right about the instrument between the phones being a barometer. Expanding the picture, it doesn't look like a clock face to me. My mentioning of there being two clocks in the wheelhouse comes from Hichens' testimony.
BI 944. Were there two clocks in the wheelhouse? - Yes.
Bob: You may be right about the instrument between the phones being a barometer. Expanding the picture, it doesn't look like a clock face to me. My mentioning of there being two clocks in the wheelhouse comes from Hichens' testimony.
BI 944. Were there two clocks in the wheelhouse? - Yes.
Mark Chirnside
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Yes indeed.
As regards to two wheelhouse clocks, on Olympic Smith always referred to the 'wheelhouse clock' using the singular rather than the plural. Whether he was merely refering to one of two, whether Titanic's wheelhouse clock arrangement was different...well, how can we know?
Best wishes,
Mark.
As regards to two wheelhouse clocks, on Olympic Smith always referred to the 'wheelhouse clock' using the singular rather than the plural. Whether he was merely refering to one of two, whether Titanic's wheelhouse clock arrangement was different...well, how can we know?
Best wishes,
Mark.
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Bryan Ciobanu
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The "diagram" is now finished, well the telephone part is.
Tell me what you think,
Warning! It is an amateur work, and it quite simple. And it is minimized because of the great size...
Bryan.
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Bryan Ciobanu
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Thanks Bob.
I was wondering about the wall, what color is it?
On the Olympic, it seems to be natural colored wood.
Was it white on the Titanic?
Bryan A.
I was wondering about the wall, what color is it?
On the Olympic, it seems to be natural colored wood.
Was it white on the Titanic?
Bryan A.
Michael H. Standart
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Bryan, I've seen a photo of the apparatus in my copy of Falling Star. It's one of the few known photos taken of any part of the Titanic's bridge. I'd have to look it over for comparison, but it looks to me like you got most if not all of it right.
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Bryan Ciobanu
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Thank you all.
I have been thinking about drawing the rest of the wall. I'll see...
Bryan
I have been thinking about drawing the rest of the wall. I'll see...
Bryan
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Haowei Shi
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My school have those circuits to hook up the clocks and it failed. It was a total diasaster.
