Most Accurate looking Smith

  • Thread starter Aydan Dimitri Casey
  • Start date

A

Aydan Dimitri Casey

Guest
Who do you think was the most accurate looking Captain Smith?
I reckon Laurence Naismith( so did Mel Cooke for that matter, she was the real Smith's daughter).

Cordially,
Aydan
 
A

Aydan Dimitri Casey

Guest
Ah, Adam I remind you, Hill needed full makeup, Naismith did not.
 

Adam McGuirk

Member
May 19, 2002
567
2
183
Yes But by using full makeup he resembled Smith more in my opinion. And you can't use what Smiths daughter said in some cases because you don't know what she would have said if she would have seen Hill.
Adam
 
Jan 31, 2001
1,190
22
233
I think Bernard Hill was the most accurate, as well; I think of his image when I think of Captain Smith.


Cheers,
happy.gif


-B.W.
 
A

Aydan Dimitri Casey

Guest
Paul and Adam you miss my point. Hill needed makeup to do Smith!!! Naismith did what any consumate professional would do... rely on his natural abilities
 

Richard Paola

Member
Nov 17, 2001
74
0
156
i would agree with Aydan...Hill didn't seem to have that "old salty" look..his face looked rather "young"...i guess all the makeup in the world can't capture "natural" age..the captain in the 1953 "Titanic" was pretty good, but maybe a little slim...
 

Adam McGuirk

Member
May 19, 2002
567
2
183
Aydan I don't miss your point at all. I know he needed makeup, but by using the makeup that made him look more like Smith.
Adam
 
A

Aydan Dimitri Casey

Guest
It's ironic isn't it ? Laurence Naismith was only 49 (the youngest ever actor to play the part)when he played Captain Smith in ANTR yet he looked hauntingly like the man himself. If you ask me Bernard Hill would have been better off playing a steerage steward!LOL!

As for my criticism of the use of full make-up by Bernard Hill, it stems from something James Cameron said. He used words to the effect that his film would have the most authentic casting in that all actors would resemble those whom they played.
 
S

sharon rutman

Guest
How about one of the worst smith portrayls--in Cameron's Titanic. was it my imagination or did Cameron intend Captain Smith to appear clueless and senile?
 

Adam McGuirk

Member
May 19, 2002
567
2
183
Yes I think he did. If you read the biography here it says things like he "was unusually cautious" and his skills of leadership seemed to have left him that night. So I think Cameron's Smith was pretty accurate.
Adam
 
Jul 9, 2000
58,666
880
563
Easley South Carolina
Don't be so sure about Smith's leadership skills going on holiday. I've been attempting a cover to cover read of both transcripts. I'm almost done with the Senate transcript and I would suggest anyone and everyone give it a look. My read on the testimony points to much more active involvement by Captain Smith then a lot of people might believe.

If at times he seemed invisible, you can bet his influance was still there. From where I sit, it looks like he did what any smart Captain would do; call the shots and let his officers do their jobs without micromanaging them.

The results IMO, speak for themselves. They got 18 of 20 boats away without any panic until the very last even though the crew was largely untrained, undrilled, and unfamilier with each other on a ship with which few had any real experience.

That's no small accomplishment!
 
R

Richard K. Mason

Guest
To Aydan And To Everybody;;

Here's a thought for you to grapple with; Back in the 1970's, PBS did a fictional tele-play based on a book by a fictional writer which concerned the idea of a court martial being brought against General George Armstrong Custer. It was meant to give us a moment to contemplate what might have happened had he somehow survived the Little Bighhorn. Now, suppose a ficitonal tele-drama was done about a trial involving Captain Smith having ,incredibly, survived the Titanic disaster. Who would you pick to play the role of the captain and {think about this}, what would the outcome of such a trial be?

Have a good day,
Richard
 

Adam McGuirk

Member
May 19, 2002
567
2
183
Michael, I guess you have a good point. That is no small achievement, getting those boats away. There is still evidence that he was cautious that night, but maybe not as much as we all think he was.
Adam
 
S

sharon rutman

Guest
Believe it or not, Captain Smith, prior to the Titanic, had never, ever been involved in any sort of accident and had no experience in handling a crisis. Smith even told a reporter that he made a poor topic for a story because his career had been so uneventful. After bringing over the Adriatic over in l907, Smith declared that he could not think of anything that would cause a ship to founder. Modern shipbuilding had gone beyond that...

What a mockery that seems in retrospect.
 
T

Trent Pheifer

Guest
Wasn't Smith in two accidents prior to the Titanic, wasn't he the Captain at the time of the HMS Hawke incident? Although this doesn't even compare to the Titanic sinking, he was involved in at least one accident. There was also they tugboat that was almost sunk by the Olympic. I don't really like how Captain Smith was portrayed in Titanic(1997) though I though he looked very much like the real Captain Smith. I don't like how he seems as though he is in a daze after hitting the iceberg. It makes it seem as though he did nothing to help. Not at all what I pictured Smith doing on that night.

-Trent
 

Tracy Smith

Member
Nov 5, 2000
1,646
11
313
South Carolina USA
Smith indeed had been involved in accidents before Titanic. There was the Hawke incident, and there was at least one grounding several years before that. I'm thinking there was another grounding, but I'd have to check to corroborate that. At any rate, his career had not been totally unventful and spotless before the Titanic disaster.
 

Similar threads

Similar threads