New book on the horizon about the Morro Castle


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I have the Hal Burton book ( $1.00 library sale) and it was very interesting. I hope this one will have some information.
Lucky you!

I wonder how much a one way or round trip costed on the ship?​
 

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>I wonder how much a one way or round trip cost on the ship?

Funny you should ask! Here are the complete, 1934, round trip rates for the 7 day cruises. Sidny and Dolly Davidson/ Eleanor Brennan, and Ruben and Grace Holden occupied the $180 cabins, so that leaves you with slim choice....

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Ah, dude. That's bad news. Only cabins 613 and 615 are available! They should have booked sooner!

Here is the complete occupied cabin list. As you'll note- the cheapest cabins had VERY high fatality rates....which I can't figure out, since they were furthest from the fire!


The names of the victims are marked with X.






A DECK : 16 of 20 cabins and suites occupied. Pelvis of body found in hall between cabins 19 and 21. Identified in newspapers as male.

1. Dr. Charles Cochrane. Recovered from cabin: Watch and chain with safety pin attached to chain. Eleven keys on ring. Four coins- one cent, one dime, two coins fused together, eight pieces of metal. One small set of tools.

2. Dr. Theodore L. Vosseler
Mrs. Katherine Vosseler. Recovered from cabin: Watch and chain with monogram T.V.L.

3. X Miss Catherine Cochrane. Recovered from cabin: Two keys. One small piece of metal. Four stones, possibly pearls. One ring (three large stones, two appear to be diamonds) third stone blue. Several small diamonds along side. Two eyeglass lenses. Two dresser clocks, one with a diameter of about four inches, one with a diameter of about three inches. Metal portion of dental plate. Three gold inlays or teeth. Three teeth (white) possibly false. Monocle. Bones found on bedsprings.

9. Miss Nan. B. Helm. Recovered from cabin: Eleven coins fused together. Five keys. one identification tag. Scissors, one metal figure, one stone in setting. Dresser clock. One stone, six stones in setting.

10. X Mr. Max ‘Monroe’ Berliner. Recovered from cabin: Eleven keys on ring, watch and wrist watch, small case (gold filled) marked Claremore Lodge. Nine dimes, eight nickels, three Cuban nickels, one quarter. Two sets of cuff links, three studs, one watch chain, two pieces of metal. Masonic ring. Charred bones. Several gold teeth.

11. Mr. Walter E. Byrne. Recovered from cabin: One pair of eye glasses.

12. Mr. David Schneider. Recovered from cabin: Three keys, one clasp and a few beads. Four cents, two quarters, one dime, one Cuban nickel.

14. X Mr. Frank B. Meley. Recovered from cabin: One belt buckle, monogram F.B.M. One silver dollar, part of medal.

15. Mrs. Renee Mendez Capote. Recovered from cabin: Eleven keys in a bunch. Four keys on ring and chain. One shell novelty, one silver novelty, traveling clock.

16. Mrs. Angelus D'Orn. Recovered from cabin: Five metal drinking cups fused together. Sixteen pieces of silver dresser set. One small pen knife, two thimbles, one metal address book cover, one watch (appears to be). One small cross, two pieces of metal possibly a belt, six pieces of metal possibly a belt, five buckles, part of medal, part of rosary beads, three pieces of fused jewelry, one stone. Bones of one whippet dog,

17. Miss Rosario Camacho Recovered from cabin: One Cuban cent, one American cent. Scissors.

18. X Master Roberto Gonzales. Recovered from cabin: One belt buckle, one key.

19. X Dr. Henry Strauch
X Mrs. Ruth Strauch. Recovered from cabin: Watch and chain, scissors, four cents, one dime, one nickel, one quarter.

21. X Master Braulio Saenz y Aguilera. Recovered from cabin: One metal powder box, three keys, nine collar buttons, wrist watch, two childrens' pins, two medals
one Cuban 20 cent, one Indian head cent, one Cuban five cent, one cent, six English coins, two gold coins.

23.X Mrs. Caridad Saenz
X Miss Margaret Saenz y Aguilera
X Miss Marta Saenz y Aguilera. Recovered from cabin: Four keys, two Cuban 5 cents, one two peso gold piece, piece of metal and coin fused together, one necklace in three pieces, two parts of rings (one appears to be diamond). Bones found on floor believed to be remains of Saenz child.

B DECK: None of the 8 suites on B Deck were occupied. Watchman Harold Foersch, known to have been on the bridge with Captain Warms at the onset of the fire, was tentatively named as the body found on the forward starboard promenade deck, under the bridge, on Sunday. The only decking unburned on the entire expanse of B Deck was beneath his body.
 
C DECK. 86 of 93 cabins and suites occupied.

201. Mr. Jose Antonio Freire. Recovered from cabin: Two medallions, one belt buckle, one medal, forty coins undetermined denomination, small cross.

202. Miss Edith Hull. Recovered from cabin: Three cents fused together, two coins fused together, wrist watch, five keys, six keys on chain.

203. X Dr. Francisco Busquet
Mrs. Ofelia Busquet
Miss Ofelia Busquet: Recovered from cabin: One disc, one bracelet in seven sections, five medallions, one key, rosary beads and bullet fused, one mass of fused jewelry. Jewelry fused to small bottle. One cuff link with diamond set in center, broken wedding ring set in stones. One pin. Two stones, part of setting burned.

204. Miss Zelda Nathanson. Recovered from cabin: Three keys. One silver dollar, eleven nickels, five quarters.

205. Dr. Harry Brinkman
Mrs. Harry Brinkman. Recovered from cabin: Traveling clock, wrist watch, dental bridge (six teeth) two pairs of cuff links, eight studs for dress shirt. Six coins, two rings- stone set in center, corner of billfold (gold) Thirty seven crystal beads, seventeen pieces-probably part of bracelet (metal with stone insets)

206. Dr. Paul Giannini
Mrs. Paul Giannini. Recovered from cabin: Four keys on ring. Watch and chain fused together. Ten pieces of what appears to be bracelet.

207. Mr. Philip Geffert
Mrs. Lillian Geffert. Recovered from cabin: One key, one watch, four coins fused together, fused rosary beads, three pieces of what is believed to be jewelry, one diamond ring.

208. X Mr. Milton Listic
Mr. John Kempf. Recovered from cabin: Two keys, bottle opener and knife on remains of key case, two keys on remains of key case, two nickels, one cent.

209. Dr. Gouverneur Morris Phelps
Mrs. Katherine Phelps. Recovered from cabin: Traveling clock, two watches, one cent, one forty cent Cuban coin, bracelet fused with glass bottle.

21(?) Miss Kathleen Canavan
Miss Evelyn Wheeler

210. X Miss Francis Spector
Miss Eva Fisk. Recovered from cabin: Dresser clock, two medallions one in case, six keys, one dime, two dimes fused together, three dimes fused together, three pennies, two nickels, one quarter, one cent and one quarter fused together, one cigarette case.

211. Miss Madge Carpenter
X Miss Jerry Erickson. Recovered from cabin: Two keys separate, two keys together, two keys on a chain. Small mass of fused jewelry. One bracelet. Three coins fused together. Two coins fused together. Set of earrings, stones missing. One earring. Two clasps. Three pieces of jewelry, probably necklace. Four pieces of jewelry, probably bracelet (three blue stones and what appear to be two diamonds), a fused bead. one ring, with two diamonds and four diamond chips. One ring, unable to determine stone.

212. X Mr. Eduardo Suarez y Murias. Recovered from cabin: Nothing found.

214. Miss Doris Wacker
Miss Marjorie Budlong. Recovered from cabin: One ring, stone melted. Five nickels, seven pennies, three keys, five keys attached to key case, two sets of earrings, one novelty- gun shaped, inch long.

215. Mr. Abraham Cohen
Mrs. Harriet Cohen. Recovered from cabin: Two nickels, one cent, one coin unable to determine, two keys, part of ring, three sets of earrings, one earring, two pieces of metal.

216. X Mrs. Frances Murphy
Miss Sarah Murphy
Miss Frances Murphy. Recovered from cabin: Three bracelets, one in three pieces, five keys, one cuff link, one ring, one cross, one Cuban twenty cent pieces, two Cuban five cent pieces, one brooch.

217. Mrs. Edna Von Pollnitz
Miss Betty Roberts. Recovered from cabin: Two bracelets, two sets of keys- two in each set, one key, four keys on broken chain, band of metal appears to be ring, one part of an earring, one part of a bracelet, four beads.

218. Occupant Not Known. Recovered from cabin: Three rings, one wrist watch, nine keys, several coins fused together, one penny, one nickel.

219. X Miss Louise Taubert
Miss Florence Roberts
Miss Floride laRoche. Recovered from cabin: Seven keys in key fold, rosary beads, two keys on ring, four keys separate, two nickels, one cent, three tokens-United Electric railways. One cross, two medallions, one lavaliere and chain, one brooch, four pieces of link chain possibly a necklace, frame for purse, six pieces of beads.

220. Mr. Henry Borman. Recovered from cabin: Two keys, dresser clock.

221. Mr. Gouverneur M. Phelps, Jr.
Mr. Edward Kendall. Recovered from cabin: Watch, lighter, stone 3/16"x 1 1/16" x 1 1/16" with figure engraved on face, one coin, three coins fused.

222. Mr. Emanuel Weinberger
Mrs. Mollie Weinberger. Recovered from cabin: Two keys fused together, three keys, three nickels, one cent, one quarter, one token.

223. X Mr. James Kennedy
Mrs. Ellen Kennedy. Recovered from cabin: One diamond ring, large stone in center (diamond) and three chips on each side- six in all. One ring, large oblong
stone in center and one diamond on each side. One ring unable to determine stone. Stateroom key and four other keys on ring. One bracelet, wrist watch, one set of cuff links. Three pennies fused, two pennies fused, what appear to be a quarter and a nickel fused. Two dimes fused together, one nickel, two cents, two quarters, two coins undetermined.

224. Occupant Not Known. Recovered from cabin: One ring, two keys, one cross, one brooch, one coin, U.S. Marine emblem.

225. X Mr. Joseph Heiman. Recovered from cabin: Dresser clock, four keys on chain, one key on ring, nine keys, five wrist watches, lighter, tie clamp, stone set in partly broken ring, three coins fused together, seven pennies, three nickels, one quarter, one dime.

226. Mr. Frank Loveland
Mrs. Nathene Loveland. Recovered from cabin: Nothing found.

227. X Mr. Frederick Faulconer
X Mr. Harry Lipscombe. Recovered from cabin: Ten keys on ring, three keys on ring, two keys, one cuff link, one quarter, one nickel.

228. X Mr. Herbert Wacker
Mrs. Lillian Wacker. Recovered from cabin: Two pairs of earrings, sports buckle, watch, three quarters, four dimes, one nickel, watch chain with attachment for belt on which is an Elks emblem.

229. X Mr. Ferdinand Reinkung
X Mr. William Grimm. Recovered from cabin: One belt buckle, one coin, one tie clasp.

230. Miss Ann Conway: Recovered from cabin: One pair of earrings.

231. X Mr. Louis Pollice
X Mrs. Viola Pollice. Recovered from cabin: 1 1/2 keys fused together, two nickels, one quarter.

232. Mr. Philip B. Newmark
Mrs. Dora Newmark. Recovered from cabin: One dinner ring in three pieces in which are set several stones, possibly diamonds. Cigarette and compact case, one key, four coins appearing to be pennies, one Cuban centavo, one pair of cuff links, brooch with initials D.N.

234. Miss Bertha Marquardt. Recovered from cabin: One bracelet in three pieces, one key, four coins fused together, lavaliere in three pieces.

235. Mr. Sydney Davidson
Mrs. Dolly Davidson. Recovered from cabin: One cigarette case, four keys, three coins fused together, two quarters, one nickel, one cent, one ring, two small diamonds, one blue stone.

237. X Miss Eleanor Brennan. Recovered from cabin: One compact, possibly gold. Small clock, one cross, three medallions, one bracelet.

238. Mr. Reuben Holden
X Mrs. Grace Holden. Recovered from cabin: One bracelet in two pieces- 21 diamonds set in one piece, two diamonds set in other piece. The piece with two diamonds is fused to a brooch in which are set twelve diamonds. One diamond appears to be 3/4 karat. One mesh bag, one filigree brooch, fifteen keys, one watch, one ashtray, 16 coins, one medal, one tile, eight small clay figures, part of earring, one pendant with white stone.

239. X Mr. Henry Zimplinski
Mr. George Sivation. Recovered from cabin: One medallion.

240. Mr. Gustav Marquardt. Recovered from cabin: Two watches, three rings on a ring, one key, one pair of cuff links, nine coins fused together, three quarters, six coins fused together, five nickels, one cent, six dimes, three coins fused together.

241. Mr. Clemens Landmann
Mrs. Jose Landmann
Miss Marta Landmann. Recovered from cabin: One bracelet, one metal bottle stopper, one pin, one buckle, one watch.

242. Mr. Stephen Bodner
Mrs. Wilhelmina Bodner

243. Mr. Hiram Hulse
Mrs. Mary Hulse. Recovered from cabin: Dresser clock, small woman's watch, thimble, small shackle, token.

244. Mrs. Florence Brown
Miss Alice Desvernine. Recovered from cabin: One cross, one mesh bracelet, one mesh belt in three pieces, one set of earrings.

245. Master John Holden
Ruben Andrus Holden, Jr. Recovered from cabin: Buckle, engraved R.A.H., fourteen coins, three cuff links, small green glass figure.

246. Miss Anne Behling. Recovered from cabin: One bracelet, one bracelet in four parts, one brooch, two keys.

247. X Mr. Ernest Pottberg. Recovered from cabin: Pen knife, silver fountain pen cap.

248. Mr. Wilfred J. Kedy. Recovered from cabin: Four keys, three coins, one ring with Masonic emblem.

249. Dr. Jules Blondiau
Mrs. Martha Blondiau. Recovered from cabin: Eight keys on remains of key case, five keys on remains of key case, three coins.

250. X Mr. Irineo Villehoz. Recovered from cabin: One ring (appears to be), one stone, three pieces of watch chain.
 
251. Occupant Unknown. Recovered from cabin: One key on chain, two earrings, dinner ring, watch, two bracelets, seven coins.

252. Mr. Herman Pannino
Mrs. Pearl Pannino
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Mr. Samuel Vitale
Mrs. Samuel Vitale. Recovered from cabin: Two coins, one key, two earrings, two novelty anchors.

253. Mr. August Scheely
X Mrs. Frieda Scheely. Recovered from cabin: Two keys, large colorless stone.

254. X Mr. Francesco Tosti
Mr. Aurelio Piedra. Recovered from cabin: One pair of cuff links, three studs, one collar button and one pair of nail scissors.

255. Mr. Herman C. Miller
Mrs. Constance Miller. Recovered from cabin: Six keys on ring, watch, two keys, sixteen coins.

256. X Mr. Alexander McArthur
Mrs. Frieda McArthur. Recovered from cabin: Lavaliere in two parts- two stones on one part one stone on the other part. Class pin, one thimble, twelve coins, one good luck piece.

257. Mr. Benjamin Hirsch
Mrs. Kay Lambert Hirsch. Recovered from cabin: Mesh pocket book, ten keys on ring chain attached, eight keys on ring, small anchor pin, wrist watch, twenty three coins.

258. Miss Bessie Weinrub
Miss Estelle Chesler
X Mrs. Bessie Perlmann. Recovered from cabin: Several coins fused together, six parts of earrings, one brooch with three stones, one key, pair of nail scissors.

259. Dr. James Borrell
X Mrs. Henrietta Borrell. Recovered from cabin: Wrist watch studded with diamonds fused to a mass of jewelry, which consists of wedding ring studded with diamonds, two other diamonds visible.

260. Miss Grace Fitzgerald
Miss Evelyn Fitzgerald. Recovered from cabin: Pendant of a lavaliere with diamond in center, one ring with red stone, one crucifix in stand. Pendant of a lavaliere and chain fused together- seven stones in the pendant and earring fused to the chain, six coins, two medallions part of a lavaliere fused with part of an earring (seven stones) Rosary beads, three earrings, pin or brooch shaped like a bow and one shaped like a letter "H." Mass of metal, possibly gold.

261. Mrs. Betty Sheridan
X Master Arthur Sheridan
Mr. Thomas Featherstone. Recovered from cabin: Four keys on remains of key case, two earrings, four pieces of jewelry.

262. Mr. Matthew McElhenny. Recovered from cabin: Seven keys on ring, one watch, one pen knife, four coins.

263. X Mr. Edward J. Brady
Mrs. Adele Brady
Miss Nancy Brady

265. Mr. George Whitlock
Mrs. Charlotte Whitlock

266. Miss Lillian Davidson
Miss Martha Bradbury

267. X Miss Henrietta Wecker
X Miss Sarah Throne

269. Mr. William H. Weil
X Mrs. Clara Weil

270. X Miss Nellie Marshall
Miss Julia Vallejo

271. Miss Gertrude Cohn
Miss Sydney Falkmann

272. Miss Rose Biren

273. X Miss Agnes Berry
Miss Helen Brodie

274. Mr. Israel Rudberg

275. Miss Florence Sherman

276. Father Raymond Egan
Mr. Louis Perrine

277. Mr. George Watremez

278. Mr. Charles. O’Connor
Mr. James Bute

279. Miss Gladys Knight
Miss Ethel Knight

281. Mr. Thorpe Aschoff
Mrs. Doris Aschoff.

282. X Mrs. Dora Gahringer
X Miss Lillian Gahringer

283. Miss Marguerite Gilligan
Miss Regine Gilligan

284. Mr. W. Caldwell Golden

290. Miss Janet Pruzan
Miss Eleanor Friend

D DECK. 48 of 57 cabins occupied.

301. Dr. S. Joseph Bregstein
X Master Mervin Bregstein. Recovered from cabin: One pen knife, nine keys on ring.

302. X Miss Camilla Conroy. Recovered from cabin: Two keys, one crucifix, part of a medallion, two brooches, several coins and a good luck piece fused together, part of a bracelet.

303. Mr. Charles Hoffman
Mr. Charles Hoffman, Jr.

304. Mr. James Hassall
Mrs. Elsie Hassall. Recovered from cabin: Key and coin fused together, two keys, three coins. Ring with two white stones possibly diamonds, third stone missing-ring fused with glass and has been exposed to great heat.

305. Mrs. Julia Rueda
X Master Ricardo Rueda
Master Benito Rueda. Recovered from cabin: Wrist watch, pen knife, and key.

306. Mr. Emil Lampe
Mrs. Lillian Lampe. Recovered from cabin: Fifteen coins, 25 crystal beads, three keys, two keys on a safety pin, one oblong stone, part of ring or earring, part of earring, necklace in three pieces, eye glass frame.

307. Mrs. Sarah Hoffman
Miss Dora Hoffman. Recovered from cabin: Five coins, four keys on a ring, wrist watch and two pieces of wrist band.

308. Miss Caroline Casey
Miss Jane Adams
Miss Ann Conway. Recovered from cabin: Eleven coins fused together, three coins fused together, fifteen coins, five keys attached together, two keys, rosary in three pieces.

309. Mrs. Mary Robinson
Miss Lucille Robinson. Recovered from cabin: Three coins, one crucifix, rosary beads fused together, small elephant pin.

310. Miss Edith Hassall
Miss Loretta Hassall. Recovered from cabin: Three coins fused together, two coins fused together, eleven coins, part of a ring, ring and earring fused together, heart shaped
brooch, identification tag, one medallion, four keys, several keys in remains of a key case fused together, four beads, part of an earring.

311. Miss Pauline Kurland
Miss Augusta Tusrin. Recovered from cabin: Four coins, one pencil, one key.

312. Mr. James A. Drummond
Mrs. Claire Drummond. Recovered from cabin: Two coins fused together, two coins, rosary beads fused together, several keys in remains of a key case fused together, two masses of fused beads.

313. Miss Agnes Prince
Miss Ruth Prince. Recovered from cabin: Bracelet, earrings and lavaliere fused together, several coins fused together, one Cuban coin, part of earring, pair of earrings fused to part of bracelet, three pieces of jewelry- either part of bracelet or lavaliere.

314. Mr. Robert Meissner
Mrs. Anna Meissner. Recovered from cabin: Two coins, tie clasp, one pen knife.

315. X Miss Eva Hoffman. Recovered from cabin: Eight coins, two coins fused together, what appears to be two masses of fused coins, two keys on ring, two keys, five studs, one woman's ring with purple stone and two triangle chips.

316. Occupant unknown. Recovered from cabin: Four keys attached to remains of key case, one key, three keys attached together- two of them broken in half, five coins, one medallion. (Cabin occupant was Assistant Cruise Director Herman Cluthe)

317. Miss Alice Miller
Miss Adele Wallace. Recovered from cabin: One coin, wrist watch, bracelet in two pieces, pen knife, large stone and setting.

318. X Mr. Charles Filtzer
Mrs. Selma Filtzer. Recovered from cabin: Two keys attached to remains of key case, tie clasp, seven coins, two studs, part of watch chain

319. Dr. Samuel Lerner
Mrs. Rose Lerner

322. X Mr. Henry Hagedorn
X Mrs. Minnie Hagedorn. Recovered from cabin: Tie pin, tie clasp, two coins, bracelet in two pieces, part of cuff link, two brooches, one necklace.

324. X Mr. Charles Bader. Recovered from cabin: Two coins.

325. X Mr. Adolph Kosbothe
X Mrs. Mary Kosbothe. Recovered from cabin: Thimble, mass of fused beads.

326. Mr. James Chalfont, 2nd.
Mr. Thomas M. Peirce
X Mr. Morton Lyon. Recovered from cabin: Twelve keys on remains of key case, tie pin, tie clasp, six coins, two pocket watches, one wrist watch, one small pen knife.

327. X Mrs. Letty Mohr
X Miss Louise Overgene. Recovered from cabin: Three keys on key ring, three keys, thirty coins, pair of earrings, one lavaliere, two dinner rings.

328. X Dr. James Coll
Mrs. Dorothy Coll

329. Mr. George Ridderhoff
Mr. Paul Arneth. Recovered from cabin: Ten keys on ring, pen knife, part of what appears to be a watch chain.

331. Mr. William Clark
X Mrs. Carrie Clark

332. Assistant Purser Lester Ariessohn
Assistant Purser Thomas Torressen

333. Miss Emily Beck
Mrs. Anna Siegmund

335. X Mr. Ernest Distler
X Mrs. Adelaide Distler

337. Mrs. Ann Marie Milliken
X Mrs. Anna Kuhn

343. Miss Dinah Levy
Mrs. Kate Noteboom

345. Mr. Thomas Cannon
Mr. Michael Dulk.

347. Miss Una Cullen

349. Mr. Lloyd Barnstead
Mrs. Grace Barnstead

351. X Mr. Henry Jakoby
Mrs. Josephine Jakoby
X Mr. Henry Jakoby, Jr.

353. Mr. George English
X Mr. Francis Stewart

355. X Mr. Milton Klein
Mr. James A. Flynn. Recovered from cabin: Eleven keys on ring, remains of key case.

357. Mr. Herman Mayer
Mrs. Sophie Mayer
Miss Margaret Mayer. Recovered from cabin: One brooch, one lavaliere.

363. Miss Margaret Cotter
Miss Evelyn Hendricks

3-6. Mr. Nathan Feinberg
Mr. Francis J. Nass


C DECK Aft Deckhouse

401. X Mrs. Lulu Dillon
Miss Mae Maloney
Miss Dorothy Verfenstein

402. X Mr. Jacob Likewise
X Mrs. Minnie Likewise

403. Miss Mildred Weiser
Miss Katherine Liebler. Recovered from cabin: Three quarters, two other coins.

404. Mr. Charles Menken
Mrs. Mary Menken

405. Mr. Philip Weiser
Mrs. Ida Weiser

406. Miss Karin Klintberg
Miss Marie Schmitt
Miss Ethel Schmitt. Recovered from cabin: Two keys, one coin, bracelet with diamond and two blue stones, fourteen earrings, one lavaliere with small diamond in the pendant

D DECK Aft Deckhouse.

501. Miss Marion Slack.
Miss Sarah Stubner
X Miss Louise Vogt

502. Miss E.M. Johnson.
X Mrs. Laura Olson

503. X Mrs. Marie Byrne
Mrs. Christine Stemmermann
Miss Ann Stemmermann

504. Miss Charlotte Behr
Miss Henrietta Muller
Miss Dorothy Muller

505. Mr. William Price
X Mrs. Mary Price

506. Mr. Martin Renz
X Mrs. Anna Marie Renz

507. Mrs. Myrtle Lohse
Mrs. Bertha Olmsted

508. Miss Doris Landes
Miss Elsie Suhr
Miss Ethel Suhr.

510. Miss Ruth Fabel
Miss Mary Gilmore

E DECK. 14 of 16 cabins occupied.

601. Mrs. Elizabeth Marie Welch
X Mrs. Emily Moran
X Miss Marion Moran.

602. X Mrs. Sophie Altenburg
Mrs. Minnie Davis. Recovered from cabin: Five keys on chain, lavaliere, one key, thirteen coins. Scissors. Wrist watch, stopped at 4:45.

603. X Mr. Anthony Lione
Mrs. Mary Lione
X Master Raymond Lione
Master Robert Lione

604. Miss Helen Kosanke
Miss Sadie M. Wald. Recovered from cabin: One bracelet, three keys.

605. Mr. Herman H. Torborg
Mr. John Torborg, Jr.

606. X Mrs. Rose Kraus
Mrs. Mary Steckler

607. X Mr. William Haessler
Mr. James Petrie

608. X Miss Fannie Fryman
X Miss Ann Litwak. Recovered from cabin: Eight coins, one key.

609. X Mr. John C. Kent.
X Mr. Charles Elias

610. Miss Elmira Thompson
Miss Ida Brown. Recovered from cabin: Wrist watch, three keys an chain, three keys on ring, three lavalieres, two keys on safety pin, dinner ring.

611. X Mr. Frederick Griesmer
X Mrs. Lillian Griesmer

612. X Mrs. Dorothy Lofmark
X Mrs. Augusta Griesmer

614. Miss Alma Hill
Miss Ruth Torborg

616. Miss Gertrude Brownley
X Miss Frances Mueller
Miss Marjorie Ehrman
 
(?) (?) Miss Madeline Desvernine. Boarded in Havana. Shared a C Deck cabin with another woman, by her own account. Cabin was on the starboard side, according to the account of her cousin, Miss Alice Desvernine.

(?) Mr. Frank Dittman. Boarded in Havana. Most likely shared C-277 with George Watremez.


(?) X Mr. Franz Hoed de Beche
Mr. Joseph Hidalgo. Boarded in Havana. They shared an outside cabin.


(?) Dr. Emilio Giro
Mr. Rafael Mestre. Boarded in Havana.
 

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No problem George

I'm pondering a Doctor Who novella where the Doctor ends up on the Morro Castle - we know from the TV series that he was aboard the Titanic ("ended up clinging to an iceberg... wasn't half cold")

On the time travel theme - if you were sent back to the MC's final voyage how would you stop the fire - a big problem is that we don't know who the terrorist (or terrorists) were or what they looked like - and even if you waited in the writing room to catch them they'd probably just start the fire in another part of the ship.
 
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I myself am writing straight Historical Novel. I thought about writing a time travel novel once upon a time but Diana Gabaldon beat me too it. Clever Lady! I love Dr Who. I'm always stealing his Tardis for my theoretical trips through time in the Ballyhoo Jazz Topic on this board. There's a bit about the Morro Castle there as well. Really a bit of everything.
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20's and 30's happenings. extra.

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On the time travel theme - if you were sent back to the MC's final voyage how would you stop the fire
I'd go to a Payphone in 1934 and call in a bomb threat to the Police before the Morro Castle ever left New York.

Pst. Good luck on your story Paul.
 

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>On the time travel theme - if you were sent back to the MC's final voyage how would you stop the fire

I'd hover in the vicinity of the unoccupied suites on B Deck. About a half hour into the fire, SOMETHING exploded in those rooms with enough force to blow the fire up both stair wells, blocking access to the boats, and also with enough force to blow open doors and shatter windows, allowing the fire to 'vent' disastrously.

Someone 'dipped into' the reserve gasoline supply kept on the Marconi Deck (for want of a better term) for, as the FBI would later determine, there was less gasoline in the reserve than there should have been.

Did someone soak down the bedding in the eight empty suites, and then seal the doors and windows creating a fume bomb? I don't know. BUT, on the northbound voyage I'd have my team members in the port and starboard B deck corridors 24/7. The entire front end of B Deck was deserted. Other than the watchman, there was no one who had any business being there. I'd keep my eyes peeled.

Even more important. What doomed the ship was the following. Two passengers, Mr. Flynn and Miss Conroy, were apparently 'snuggling' on the aft port side promenade deck in deck chairs. It was chilly, and Mr. Flynn went to get a pair of steamer blankets. As he passed through the writing room, he heard a strange noise from within the locker. He got one of the lounge stewards' attention, and in front of several passengers the steward opened the locker, saw fire, and threw the door shut. The door hit the frame hard, the latch did not engage, and the door popped open again, at which point the fire poured out and ignited the carpet.

SO...regardless of WHO started the fire, if I really wanted to stop it, I'd sit in the writing room and try to prevent the steward from opening the locker.

And, yes, it was Ethel Hassall. Edith...Ethel... my sitcom roots are showing; I transposed the name of ANOTHER NYC based sitcom second banana.
 
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Hey Russell,

Read Hal Burton's book about the Morro Castle. It's the ANTR of the Morro Castle fire. Mr. Burton was a reporter covering the MC back in 1934. He interviewed a lot of the passengers and so know a lot of what went on. Jim Kalafus told me about this Book (Thanks Again Jim). It's a good book to start on the Morro is your interested.

Jim Kalafus's own article on the MC.
 

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The worst part of the rescue was that there were ample ships on hand ~ the Lila, for instance, hove to near the M.C. within a half hour of the massive explosion~ which did commendable work rescuing the two hundred or so people who remained with the ship of jumped after sunrise. No one told them, however, that as many as 400 people had gone overboard before sunrise and were drifting two miles south and three miles closer to shore than the wrecksite. This huge group, fanned out over many square miles, was spotted from news planes arriving on the scene after sunrise. Fishing boats got the majority of them, in many cases when they were already entering the surf zone. Quite a few simply swam all the way to shore- 8 miles.

The captains and crews of the large ships which remained at the disaster site were understandably appalled. They honestly did not guess, after seeing the huge number of people who remained by the ship after daybreak, that the majority of those on board had jumped before any ships arrived on the scene.

>Another sad example of a crew abandoning passengers.

I'm with you 50/50 on that. A portion of the crew was horrible. But, on the other hand, there were perhaps 80 in the lifeboats, and another score of crew on the fo'csle. The rest did what crew should do....knocked on doors; manned hoses...and 40 of them died with the passengers. 40 crew, 88 passengers.

The most horrible aspect of this particular disaster is how well the passengers behaved with, ultimately, little to show for it. People really DID look out for one another~ going to various cabins to make sure friends were awake and affecting escape; attempting to maintain order by leading a much commented sing-along aft on C deck; and what nearly everyone said was "We were waiting for orders. No one ever came for us."

There was no panic, at least in the disaster film sense. But perhaps 450 people were jammed into the covered decks aft on C and D decks. When the wind would shift, the fire in the aft public rooms (only inches behind the people at the rear of the crowd) would flare up, and with that those furthest at the back, who were essentially frying, would surge forward and go over the rails in waves. After four or five of these rushes, everyone left aboard the ship had room at the rails, and the prospect of staying with the ship and surviving seemed more likely.
 
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Another sad example of a crew abandoning passengers.
Didn't the Crew of the Morro Castle have a high turn over rate though??

Weren't there a lot of immigrates among the crew who's grasp of English was not what they needed to hep them preform life saving operations that were needed that night.​
 
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Thanks for the reference George. My local library has a copy and I just put a hold on it.
Thank Jim as well.
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It's a good start Russell, lets you know what's going on and who's who with out all the (Rogers is a arsonist!!) shenanigans​
 

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>Didn't the Crew of the Morro Castle have a high turn over rate though??

No, auld sport! 1934, as the second worst year of the depression, was NOT a choice time for job-hopping and if you examine the 1934 manifests on Ancestry.com and compare them to the final voyage crew list I found at SUNY Maritime, the turnover does not seem unusually high.

>Weren't there a lot of immigrants among the crew who's grasp of English was not...

Yes. But that really had nothing to do with the huge loss of life. As you can see on my list, only six or seven passengers died from burns or smoke inhalation. The rest died because during the first two hours, while it was still possible to walk under the fire, none of the officers or staff members trained in life saving and evacuation walked under the fire.

Subsequently, the authority figure who most passengers later recalled, was Citibank vice-president George Whitlock. Mr. Whitlock, with a crippled wife, performed admirably but was not a trained lifesaver and, of course, did not know how to safely evacuate passengers from a ship. However, as a corporate high-up he knew how to command respect and was very effective in maintaining order and in doing things like shredding fabric, wetting it down, and distributing it as filtering masks.

If a bank vice president could do that, think of what the officers could have achieved, had they tried. Thing is, they didn't.

I often think, in this context, of a pair of incidents. A woman from Hartford, either Adele Wallace or Alice Miller (I forget at the moment)took a huge lungful of smoke towards daybreak and began to collapse, aft on C Deck. A passenger named Milton Klein caught her, put his own filter over her mouth and nose, and walked her out of the smoke to the rail. She later recalled him urging her to "Go!" as the smoke rolled over them and he helped her over the rail from which she jumped. She survived; he did not.

Mrs. Bessie Perlmann of NYC and two of her friends had a single life ring with them. They asked the ship's gym instructor if they could stay with him and he agreed, but when the section of C Deck they were on began to burn he pulled away from the women and jumped overboard without them. When the women jumped together, Mrs. Perlmann landed across tghe life ring and the impact either killed or incapacitated her. She was laying across it, with her head under water and while her friends watched a woman, who they did not know, immediately let go of the rope to which she was clinging and swam over to Mrs. Perlmann. As the stranger was trying to get her head out of the water, a wave broke over them and carried them both away, although the two remaining women managed to retrieve the life ring.

That, to me, is where the interest in the Morro Castle disaster lies. Time and again you see passengers- both male and female- instinctively doing the right thing; whether it was Mr. Whitlock maintaining order; Mr. Klein compromising his own safety to save a shipboard acquaintence; or the unknown woman who may have died trying to save Mrs. Perlmann. Then you see people high up on the Morro Castle chain of command who, presumably by nature of their being officers, had both leadership ability and emergency training, remaining entirely divorced from what was going on around them.

I've told this a few times before, but my favorite Morro Castle 'hero' was a grandmotherly appearing well-to-do woman by the name of Florence Brown. She and her nieces, 18 and 21, went overboard before sunrise (aided by Mr. Whitlock)and spent the next hour holding on to ropes and being battered against the side of the ship by the waves. A woman washed past them, who had her life jacket on upside down~ her head and shoulders were under water, as were her legs, with her hips jackknifed skyward. She was alive, but obviously drowning, and accorsding to both nieces, Mrs. Brown never hesitated in letting go of her rope and swimming towards the unfortunate woman. The current caught both of them and swept them astern, so the nieces did not see if Mrs. Brown reached the dying woman and Mrs. Brown never commented one way or the other. But, the fact is, she tried and did so without hesitation.

Then, one wonders, what did this grandmother-type have that the officers lacked?
 

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