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Aly Jones
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Thank you for the valid information kat.
I do recall Lightoller meet his wife mid voyage and probably fall in love with her then. Such a lucky lady to be chased by an officer gentleman.
I do recall Lightoller meet his wife mid voyage and probably fall in love with her then. Such a lucky lady to be chased by an officer gentleman.
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Aly Jones
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Sadly, I lost my wife of 60 years recently. You are spot- on with your assessement of the modern male. However, keep in mind that it takes 2 to tango. Many a young sailor received a "Dear John" letter... myself included. I will ot go into my assessement of the modern male...I have 5 of them in my Clan.
As for the modern sea-person( I must remember I'm living in the bright , new pc world)? I heard recently that poor sailors have been ship-bound for up to 4 month due to Covid and have only had their mobiles to keep in touch with freinds and loved ones...poor wee souls!
Back in my day and in the days of Titanic...90% of sailors signed 2 Year Articles and that meant they could not get home unless th ship docked in the UK or Continent. Apprentices worked 12 hours a day, 24/7 and did not receive overtime payment..
As a matter of intere st, my first wage was £75 per year when the average was about £480 per year.
Sorry to hear about your loss. How did you meet her?
Work hard, get good job, get good money, then get the woman. This is why I believe the officers married much later in life.
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Aly Jones
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I now believe their wives were the only women they had in their lives but Times had change since then. I also read officers were very popular with the ladies. Unifroms help little bit though.
People were more loyal back then. I know wilde lost his wife but had no intentions of finding another woman and murdochs wife ada never remarried after his death.
The remainder surviving officers stayed with their wives until their deaths. These people actually love one another.
Yes romance mid voyage is adorable.
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Steven Christian
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I'm sorry to hear about your wife Jim. My condolences. Its good you have a clan. But you are right about how things have changed in the last few years. I saw a docu recently about one of the modern carriers. Cell phones, internet, satellite communications...ect. I remember sometimes it took up 3 weeks to get a reply from a letter when we were in the Indian Ocean. But I also think that's why some went to sea..they liked it that way.Sadly, I lost my wife of 60 years recently. You are spot- on with your assessement of the modern male. However, keep in mind that it takes 2 to tango. Many a young sailor received a "Dear John" letter... myself included. I will ot go into my assessement of the modern male...I have 5 of them in my Clan.
As for the modern sea-person( I must remember I'm living in the bright , new pc world)? I heard recently that poor sailors have been ship-bound for up to 4 month due to Covid and have only had their mobiles to keep in touch with freinds and loved ones...poor wee souls!
Back in my day and in the days of Titanic...90% of sailors signed 2 Year Articles and that meant they could not get home unless th ship docked in the UK or Continent. Apprentices worked 12 hours a day, 24/7 and did not receive overtime payment..
As a matter of intere st, my first wage was £75 per year when the average was about £480 per year.
The 12 hours 24/7 was what we worked at sea in my dept. I did a 102 days at sea once...no port calls. Luckily we had a good captain and he threw as many "steel beach parties" as he could to make it a little more tolerable. I also remember when we docked after that run they had ham radio volunteers that would relay radio calls back home for people. My first check in the navy was less than what I what I got as a high school kid working on my cousins cattle ranch/dairy...which wasn't much. Less than minimum wage.
Conor H
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Hello all,
Does anyone know if there was an official standard for the cuffs of officer's shirts, or was it personal preference? For the most part from various photographs they seem to be exclusively double (or French) cuffs, rather than barrel cuffs, but in a lot of media (not a terribly reliable source, I know) they wear barrel cuffs. As well, in some photographs the ends of the jacket sleeves seem to lack the rigidity that the stiff double cuff of the time provided.
I ask specifically in reference to service dress uniforms. I know I am reviving a somewhat older thread, but it seemed better to ask my question here than form a new one for something rather niche.
Does anyone know if there was an official standard for the cuffs of officer's shirts, or was it personal preference? For the most part from various photographs they seem to be exclusively double (or French) cuffs, rather than barrel cuffs, but in a lot of media (not a terribly reliable source, I know) they wear barrel cuffs. As well, in some photographs the ends of the jacket sleeves seem to lack the rigidity that the stiff double cuff of the time provided.
I ask specifically in reference to service dress uniforms. I know I am reviving a somewhat older thread, but it seemed better to ask my question here than form a new one for something rather niche.
Cam Houseman
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