Olympic and the White Star buy out of 1928


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Luke Mack

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Does any one have any information on the buy out of White Star of 1928 and the Olympics Subsequent redecoration? Pictures would be much Appreciated.
 
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This buy out Mike...Royal Mail Steam Packet Co purchased the White Star Line in 1928 from the International Mercantile Marine Co IMMC bringing the company back to British ownership.
 

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Royal Mail Steam Packet Co purchased the White Star Line in 1928

Ah! Never seen or heard it called a "buy out" before, and from the wording of your message I thought it had something to do with Olympic's "redecoration."

(The year was 1926, not 1928, btw.)

Try tracking down a copy of "A Business of National Importance," a history of Royal Mail that devotes considerable attention to the RMSP acquisition of White Star and the subsequent disintegration of the Royal Mail Group.

Also, run a search on the board; we've discussed the post-IMM history of White Star on numerous occasions.
 
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thanks mark. I remember reading somewhere that the olympic was spruced up after the change of ownership....new leather on the dining chairs...etc. just wondering if any one has photos.
 
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I don't know if any "Sprucing up" was done in response to a change in ownership, but then a ship undergoes numerous facelifts and refits during her operational lifetime. My understanding of the Olympic was that she was very well looked after by White Star with the result that her material condition was very good...and in some respects improved...throughout her career. Refinishing, re-upholstering and/or replacing worn furniture would happen as a matter of routine.

Having said that, some of the "improvements" thought of as a good idea at the time, left a thing or dozen to be desired. For example refinishing the Grand Staircase in a lime colour that can only be described as ghastly. (At least to our eyes.)

You might want to get a copy of RMS Olympic, Titanic's Sister, by Mark Chirnside which is available at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/075243148X/qid=1126713340/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/002-0140115-8186416?v=glance&s=books

This may not be what you can call the definitive history of the ship, but it's as close as you can ever come to it for now. Mark researched this work for years and did one hel of a job digging up some very obscure source material.
 

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I believe that the changes in the dining saloon reflected the taste of Lady "soandso" (her name escapes me) who was basically one of the new owners of the ship. (all found in Mark Chirnside's book.)
 
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Hi Michael,

That's high praise indeed! Thanks for your kind words, and thanks to all who have bought the book. Sales seem to be particularly strong at the moment. I'll never complain about a free advertisement.
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Best wishes,

Mark.
 
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Hi Luke,

I'm pleased you enjoyed it. Thanks!

Hi Michael,

Hopefully indeed. I'd like to think that the book will go a small way towards raising her profile. Fortunately, we have a November reprint so there will be plenty of copies available for Christmas.

Best wishes,

Mark.
 

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>>Fortunately, we have a November reprint so there will be plenty of copies available for Christmas.<<

Great! Perhaps I'll find a copy under the Christmas Tree. Knowing your work, Mark, it will make an outstanding read.
 
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Hi Trevor,

Many thanks for your kind words. If you do get a copy, I hope that you enjoy reading it. It's hearing that people enjoyed my work that makes writing worthwhile.

As an aside, I may have the first class figures for Olympic here somewhere for 1927-29. I'm not so sure if it applied to first class, but overall Olympic's popularity was steadily increasing during this period. 1929 marked her most popular year since 1925. With ever-fiercer competition, I think the refit had something to do with it.

Best wishes,

Mark.
 

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I cant remember what year it was, I want to say 1927 or 1929 that Olympic's Staircase was finished in that odd green. Someone please correct me.

Anyway, my question is, did any of the passengers like this change? I have my own belief that it did nothing to lengthen the ship's lifespan.
 
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Hi Sean,

I cant remember what year it was, I want to say 1927 or 1929 that Olympic's Staircase was finished in that odd green.

The consensus is that Olympic's grand staircase had the green applied during the 1932-33 refit. Reports about the new colouring are available from 1933.

Anyway, my question is, did any of the passengers like this change? I have my own belief that it did nothing to lengthen the ship's lifespan.

I don't remember reading any passenger account that specifically praised the 'new' colour scheme. That's not so say none exist. One account from June 1933 praised the elegant grand staircase, but I don't recall mention of the colour.

If I recall correctly, Paul Louden-Brown has quoted one passenger in 1928-29, who said something along the lines of: 'I knew Olympic was getting old, but I never knew she was *that* old.' That's from memory. They were referring to some changes to the ship's first class accommodation during that period.

I don't think the changes ultimately had any effect on the length of Olympic's lifespan. We'll never know how long she might have stayed in service had the economic circumstances been different.

Best wishes,

Mark.
 
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christopher marshall

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i dont think that true becase all liners were bourght out in 1901 bye the royalmail and the next time white star was bort was in 1965 bye cunard
 
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