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If the auction house still exists, then their records might too.

Look forward to reading your information, Mark!
 
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Jon,

I've no idea if the rumour has any substance whatsoever. I haven't even checked whether the lot was sold. A more detailed study of the auction has been on my 'to list' for a long time but there are those researchers such as Stuart Kelly who have a more specific interest in that aspect.

I should perhaps clarify that I think the rumour related to the wooden wheelhouse, aside from the wooden bridge front proper, so I answered a slightly different question in that respect.

Paul,

I understood that the company evolved as follows:

Best wishes,

Mark.
 

Jon Brockman

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Ok Mark Thanks for the Info, It would be a wonderful find if it did turn up one day,
also i have sent you a "PM" on a different matter Mark
 
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Thanks for the information, Philip. It's saved time inquiring about it.

Isn't it fortunate we have other sources available...

Best wishes,

Mark.
 
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I'll drink some rum. Then I can't speak with my mouth full!
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Best wishes,

Mark.
 
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Have the Olympic fittings been sold as sought souvenirs from a famous steamer which everyone wanted to have or just as old and useless fittings from an old steamer?

Vitezslav
 
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What happened to fittings which have not been sold? I have seen the auction catalog but there are some fittings missing. What happened to them? Where have all the 500 chairs and the panelling from the first class dining room gone and what happened to the many other items which have not been in the catalog?

Vitezslav
 
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Hi Vitezslav,

After the 1935 auction of the interior fittings, major components of First Class areas were later re-installed all over England and abroad.

The entire First Class Lounge and large portions of paneling and balustrades as well as the aft dome of the First Class Grand Staircase were later re-fitted into the White Swan Hotel Alnwick in Northumberland.

The paneling from the First Class Ala Carte Restaurant was purchased by the Celebrity Cruise Line in 2000 and installed as the Olympic Restaurant on their cruise ship Millennium.

There is a debated rumor that the First Class Smoke Room paneling is fitted in a private home in England, it has been listed for sale on EBay several times but technicalities such as the request that the owner NEVER be contacted for any reason about the paneling make me doubt its authenticity.

Ken Marschall also holds one of the largest collection of Olympic paneling and fittings, all found abandoned in a barn of all places.

All of the woodwork Ken Marschall owns however still shows the ugly avocado green paint that was applied to all the Grand Staircase paneling circa 1933.

I hope this helps -

Best Regards,

Brian

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Brian R Peterson

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Hi Viteslav,

Any fittings that were not auctioned were most likely deemed non salesworthy and were scrapped, scrap auctions then as now only sell what they can turn the most profit on.

Best Regards,

Brian

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Thank you Brian. I know about the lounge's and restaurant panelling and some other items.
But I would like to know, who bought all the relics? Souvenirs hunters? Or were that just old fittings that nobody wanted? And how high were the asking prices?

Thank you
Vitezslav
 
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Hello,

I just wonder how had it been with the Olympic fittings in the 1935 auction?

Were the items sought after as souvenirs to a great ship or for the beauty of the carvings on the panelling? Or was it rather selling off an old junk that nobody wanted? I mean when I would have the chance to buy cheap and old panelling and gilt sconces in Louis XVI or Empire style, I would grab it!

What about prices? Are there any recordings about how much does it cost?

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I know that some of the fittings and furnishings from RMS Olympic ended up in hotels, etc, in the north-east of England, but in November 1935 The Times reported that "The biggest buyer was Mr C.T.Hawtree of the Majestic Lido Hotel, Douglas, and of Port Soderick, Isle of Man, who purchased 394 lots". Does anyone know if these items were actually used in the Lido Hotel on the Isle of Man?

The report also suggested that several lots were not sold, the attendance at the auction having been small. A representative of the auctioneers stated that, while prices were regarded as fair, there had been "little sentiment shown in acquiring mementoes, and that probably more interest would have been taken and better results secured had the sale taken place at Southampton" instead of the impoverished north-east of England.
 
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The MILLENIUM has stuff from the Olympic aboard! Just recently I was taking photos of this cruise ship, how weird that she has some of Olympic's fittings aboard. Maybe I should save for a cruise!
I mean it was kind of spooky being within 200 yards of a piece of Olympic.
 

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Hi Stanley, with regards to the Majestic hotel Isle of Man, ive done a bit of online checking and found out that that hotel was extended in the 1930's, so its a posibility olympic fittings were used there but unfortunatly the hotel no longer exists, it was still there in the 70's so someone might know more? you have certainly got me wondering what the 394 lots were and where they are now!
Also on the subject does anyone know what happened to the turkish baths fixtures and fittings when Olympic was scrapped?
 
I did a lot of research into the Isle of Man connection back in 2000 when I had my website and looked up the Times articles Stanley has just published on ET. The Majestic Hotel was earmarked for demolition at the time and was indeed demolished in 2001. Contacts I made at the time told me all that was left from Olympic was two light fittings: a glass bowl chandelier from the 1st class elevator lobbies and another from the A La Carte Restaurant. The hotel's last owner apparently wanted an exorbitant sum for them and they could not be sold as a result. I don't know what the fate of these fittings was.

I visited the Isle of Man in 2005 and did some more research with the help of a local historian. I was intending to write a paper of my findings for this site but never got round to finishing it. I think I might endeavour to do this in 2009, I still have my notes but will have to wait until I next visit my parents in Scotland as most of the research material I collected is in storage at their house.
 
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If the hotel had its own sale, it seems possible that there may still be some White Star Line artefacts on the Isle of Man? Shipping costs may have deterred some purchasers from sending furniture or other heavy fittings away from the island. Also, the wording of the 1930s sales reports hinted that the Olympic fittings could have been intended for two hotels (or perhaps a hotel and a house?) in Douglas and Port Soderick.
 

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