Olympic sistership of Titanic

[Ralph Dellar]

A. W. Barringer, Saloon Steward

In the crew sign-on particulars on your excellent web site, A. W. Barringer listed his last ship as Olympic. (Many of the crew and passengers of both the Olympic and Titanic were combined at the last minute, I believe, because the Olympic was damaged at the wharf and unable to sail.)

Are there any photographs available (in private collection, published books, archives, ..) of the Olympic victuallizing crew of saloon stewards? Or was any taken of the same group before the Titanic sailed? I have never seen a photo of my grandmother's brother (he was the "big secret", never discussed).

 

[Ralph Dellar]

Olympic

Is there a similar site that covered the Titanic sister ships?

Might there be crew sign-on sheets for Olympic available somewhere? (This might help me to trace A. W. Barringer to previous ships.)

 

[Stuart Kelly]

I have a site about the Olympic though it is main concerned with finding and photographing her surviving artefacts.
www.theolympic.co.uk

 

[Simcha Dovid Fetter]

There is a photo. on p. 219 of Titanic by Don Lynch - Hyperion Books, showing an orthodox Jewish school excursion to watch the Olympic's hull being towed to Inverkeithing, Scotland for final demolition.

Can anyone tell me the name of the school?

 

[Jan C. Nielsen]

Here's an unusual photograph which shows the Olympic in New York, with another four-funnel steamship in the background.lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/etc.@@

 

[Sam Brannigan]

Looks like the Mauritania or Lusitania hovering behind her.

 

[Jan C. Nielsen]

Courtesy of Library of Congress Collection. No known copyright restrictions.

 

[Mark Chirnside]

I can't look at either of them.

 

[Jan C. Nielsen]

Sorry, Mark. I think it should work now.content.communities.msn.com/etc.

 

[Shelley Dziedzic]

A photo of Olympic in her dazzle paint wartime design was sent to me by Joe Carvalho- one of the THS founders. Had never seen her portside before.
http://www.geocities.com/revdma2/pictures.html
scroll down to see it.

 

[Jan C. Nielsen]

Thanks for that, Shelly. I enjoyed viewing your sequence on the Lizze Borden murders. If you're interested in famous murder mysteries, check out

http://www.bethshort.com


which is the story of the Black Dahlia murder in Los Angeles, in 1947. This is a particularly grisly and mysterious story, not unlike Lizzie's --still unsolved. However, the site strongly suggests who the killer actually was. By the way, this is the scariest site on the web, in my opinion, so proceed with caution.

 

[Shelley Dziedzic]

ooh- YES- The Black Dahlia is one of my favorite mysteries-I WILL enjoy this site. Now one for YOU-

Anatomy of an Ax Murder

The double midnight murder at Smuttynose Island on March 6, 1873 is a story that just will not die quietly.

web.archive.org

Am not squeamish- all of us churchladies have a DARK side!

 

[Jim Kalafus]

BLACK DAHLIA: If you can find it, check out Childhood Shadows: The Hidden Story of The Black Dahlia Murders. Mary Pacios, the author, knew Bette Short and her family, and wrote a book which, until it goes SERIOUSLY off track, presents the most sympathtetic picture of Bette Short yet published. Of course 3/4 of the way through it veers off on a major "I can't believe I'm reading this" tangent, but up until then it is worthwhile. Oh, and watch A Double Life (released 1947) in which there is an extra who bears an eerie resemblance to "Beth" Short in the opening scene- subject of ongoing "is it, or is it not, she?" debate.

 

[Shelley Dziedzic]

Ah Sir James- you have been sorely missed! You are working too hard. Am also reading about the Madeleine Smith case lately- now if we could only get Sherlock ,Conan Doyle, Charles Frohman Lizzie, Jack the Ripper, and Dracula all on the Titanic for a real pageturner (someone is bound to do it-maybe me-it could have happened!)

 

[Jim Kalafus]

Working too hard? Why, the work week doesn't even BEGIN to get fun until after 65 hours! But since I get January-April off I have no need to complain. Charles Frohman and Lizzie Borden- actually, if you wanted to exploit the Nance O'Neill connection it could be done quite gracefully without the reader having to suspend much disbelief. JTR could also be brought aboard with some degree of logic. But Dracula MIGHT present a problem....