Ioannis I hope you don't mind me asking this. Do you work by yourself or as part of a research team (like Eaton & Haas, or Fitch, Layton & Wormstedt) ? Just wondering.You are welcome. My lifeboat launch order is a little different as it is a combination of survivor accounts but also following the list the ship had.
There are projects were I have worked together with other researchers but mainly working myself.Ioannis I hope you don't mind me asking this. Do you work by yourself or as part of a research team (like Eaton & Haas, or Fitch, Layton & Wormstedt) ? Just wondering.
Thank you!I enjoy reading all your research too. Learned a lot from it
How do you know that wheelhouse was in darkness? Where was the QM, who was responsible for striking ship's bells every half hour, stationed that night? If the chart room's light was on, then why would Lord have to ask Gibson what time it was when he came down to the chart room to report that the steamer had gone out of sight?The wheelhouse was in darkness and unused, and during daylight the officers on the Californian used the chart room clock, as there was no clock on the flying bridge, by looking down through the skylight/glazed roof of part of the chart room. Gibson would have known the chart room had a clock, and it does not make sense to me that he made a detour to the unused wheelhouse first to check the time, when he would have known the chart room clock was in view for him to see as he entered the chart room where Captain Lord was on the short settee resting, and with the chart room electric lights on. Given the very confusing evidence of The Californian Officers and Gibson, the "2.05am by the wheel house clock" sticks out, at least to me, and I can't just get my head round it! (I personally think Gibson meant to say at the British Inquiry "2.05am by the chart room clock" which would make perfect sense to me!)
Two points:he [Rowe] would either set his personal time piece back 24 minutes at 10 pm when he went on duty at 10 pm or wait until he heard the time bells from the bridge indicating a ship time.
Rowe went on duty at 8 pm and was on duty at 10 pm. He read the Log at 10 pm and passed the reading to QM Hichens who noted it in the book then relieved QM Olliver at the wheel. The time of that reading had to be 2 hours after 8 pm.Two points:
1. Rowe went on duty at 8pm, not 10. His time out on the poop was to have been 4h 23m that night because of the clock change.
(Speaking of time change, those doing shift work in most of the the States this coming Saturday/Sunday night put in an extra hour as clocks go back at 2am.)
2. Hearing time bells from the poop would probably be quite difficult that particular night with steam blowing off from the safeties after she came to a stop.
Hi Sam,How do you know that wheelhouse was in darkness? Where was the QM, who was responsible for striking ship's bells every half hour, stationed that night? If the chart room's light was on, then why would Lord have to ask Gibson what time it was when he came down to the chart room to report that the steamer had gone out of sight?
Hi Jim,Hello Julian. a little but-in.
The overhead skylight would be covered at night. This would be essential to ensure the night vision of the Officer on Watch.
There would have been an overhead light in the chart room but this would never be lit at sea except in an emergency. However, there would be a shielded light over the chart table on which would be spread the then current chart in use (North Atlantic - Western Sheet). The chatroom clock was usually on the bulkhead above the chart table/ When Gibson arrived to report to Lord, the latter was probably semi-comatose on the short chart room settee. he would be in almost complete darkness. The normal response to being awakened from a deep sleep when you can't see the time is to check if you are being called at the proper time. I don't see anything mysterious about Lord's response... in fact it was very, very normal given the situation.
Unless you can find some hard evidence to the contrary, the best we have is Gibson's statement to the wreck commission that the time was 2:05am by the wheelhouse clock when he was sent down to Lord. All other times given were approximate. Furthermore, there is zero mention of anyone else being on the upper bridge except for Stone and Gibson that night. When Lord talked of the wheelhouse not being used he meant that the ship was conned and steered from from the upper bridge when underway. The wheel in the wheelhouse was not used.My point, which appears to have been lost, is that the exactitude of Gibson's "2.05am by the wheel house clock" in the 2 papers I referenced, ought to be reconsidered.
I think that is rather stretching the evidence! Captain Lord stated the wheelhouse was unused. On a common sense approach, and interpretation, it wasn't used. Full stop.The wheel in the wheelhouse was not used