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Message: [QUOTE="Jim Currie, post: 385892, member: 144215"] I think you are all missing a very simple point and that is the reasons behind obtaining signed Affidavits or Testimonials A single affidavit is usually obtained from an individual to clear another or others of accusations against them by that individual or to help prove a disputed act etc. Group affidavits have the same purpose but are almost impossible to obtain since it is seldom that all members of a group share exactly the same opinion. In the case of the former, it may be retained privately and only used if the occasion arises. As for the latter; it would be pointless and probably impossible to keep such a mass affidavit private. Bottom line: An signed Affidavit cannot be used as proof of anything unless the signature or signatures are witnessed by a properly qualified witness. No one could be forced to sign one. As for what was signed on [i]Carpathia.[/i]..it was more than likely, like the paper signed on the [i]Teutonic[/i]... a Testimonial Letter of Appreciation. Then as now, an individual could not be forced to sign for anything that he or she did not believe to be true. I am curious about that[i] Teutonic[/i] report. How was it possible for passengers to appreciate what was going on on the bridge of the ship in thick fog? [/QUOTE]