Passengers on the bow


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Catherine Ehlers

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I've recently read that there may have been a big goof in the Cameron movie. There were several instances therein of various passengers at the bow railing, indeed able to look right down at the water far below. But evidence elsewhere states that normally on a passenger ship the forecastle area and the bow are strictly off-limits to passengers under ANY circumstances. What is the usual rule? Would passengers have been chased posthaste off the bow in real life?

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Dan Cherry

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On Titanic, no third class passengers (or any passengers) were allowed forward of the splashguard on the bow. Forward of that, too much gear machinery and temporary railings adjacent to fairlead rollers made it dangerous for other-than- qualified crew to move about.
Third class passengers technically had free access space up to the top of the stairs leading to the forecastle.
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Cathy,

Consultant's notes for the building of the Cameron sets included the warning placard on the forward splashguard that warned passengers that they were not allowed farther forward. The evidence for this detail is the one known photograph taken of Titanic's forecastle, which clearly shows the placard. The final set of the foredeck, and the model used to substitute for the forward portion of the ship, show that this detail was omitted, presumably for artistic license, as the bow (the most recognisable and least unchanged feature of the wreck) played a pivotal role in his fading between ship and wreck.

The warning was for good reason. People have gotten injured (and in at least one case, killed) by climbing up on the prow to emulate the movie.

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Erik Wood

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Cathy and All,

A little tid bit of todays ocean going fleet is this. NO passengers are allowed forward of the well deck unless accompanied but a crew member.

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Catherine, I seem to be coming into this late, but the ground seems to be well covered by the others. It wouldn't have been impossible for somebody to slip up to this area, but they could hardly have escaped notice from the bridge if they had and would have been run out in short order. Shipboard machinary is no place for unqualified people to be hanging around unless they have a deathwish.

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Following the release of the Cameron movie, the Passenger Vessel Association warned its members about passengers attempting "king of the world" tricks. And, in fact, there were several instances of people trying that damned dumb stunt on ferry boats. The U.S. Coast Guard Marine Safety Office in Toledo, Ohio also warned passenger ship operators about the same thing. Who says movies don't influence kids?

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I have never had such a problem but the Carnival Destiny did not that long ago. The person refused to leave and the thought became that they were trying to commit suicide rather then be "king of the world"

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Jim Trebowski

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If you really want to do the whole "king of the world" thing, usually the bows of much smaller ships can be accessed (i.e. dinner cruise ships) and perhaps some gambling ships as well.
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