Planned OceanGate Expedition to Titanic


Cam Houseman

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Dear all, well to confirm after years of delays Oceangate's expedition to RMS Titanic is finally happening next month! RMS Titanic Inc. decided some time ago not to attempt to recover the Marconi this year, so it will just be our completely 'hands off' survey of the site to create a GIS (no wreck penetration or contact of any kind). So many questions, so much ground to cover - and the beauty of Titanic is that it's probably the one archaeological artefact in existence in which it is feasible to 'crowd source' part of the research component: from all the Titanic museums, societies, popular authors, and amateur enthusiasts. So this is an official invitation: if you could pilot Oceangate's Titan for an eight-hour dive for the Titanic, what would you investigate? Personally I'm fascinated by the story of the animals on the Titanic (it's the dog and cat lover in me), a tradition kept alive on the Cunard liners today with their luxury pet areas. I want to get down to what's left the stern area of F deck to see if the kennels were there as some as proposed, or up on the boat deck (which kind of makes more sense, and is closer to where Cunard liners put their kennels today). For me this is part of a larger story of how class and race should be a bigger focus in the stats of who survived than the gentlemanly heroics: three pampered pet dogs survived the sinking, while 52 children from steerage perished. Thanks in advance for all your thoughts and suggestions (many of which on this forum have inspired research questions for the expedition). I'm hoping to post back here regularly but it will be in a limited way during the expedition itself due to lack of internet and also to preserve some surprises till the end.
Hello! Welcome to the message board!
Wonderful post! could I ask a few questions?
1. Will the footage be hidden away immediately after the expedition, like most of the others?
2. Is there an accompanying documentary?
3. Will the dive time be divided evenly between the Bow and Stern sections?
4. Will the Debris field be explored?
Thanks a ton! :)
 
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Hello! Welcome to the message board!
Wonderful post! could I ask a few questions?
1. Will the footage be hidden away immediately after the expedition, like most of the others?
2. Is there an accompanying documentary?
3. Will the dive time be divided evenly between the Bow and Stern sections?
4. Will the Debris field be explored?
Thanks a ton! :)
1. I understand your frustration! So many expeditions have gone with the intention to 'map the wreck' (usually just a photomosaic, not a true archaeological map) and 'share the images with the world' - and then it turns out all the imagery is actually owned by Nat Geo or some organization and never makes its way to the public except through paid content. My expectation is that we're going to put up as much of the best imagery as we can online in the months following the expedition, and over time look to an online database or GIS. The mission specialists will also be able to share their photos and video.
2. Yes there is a documentary but it's going to be more like a news or reality TV show, it will air within a couple of weeks of the expedition finishing. I think we'll be obliged to hold on to any big surprises until then.
3. Bow vs stern vs debris field - well at the end of the project we want to have covered everything for the GIS, but we also want the mission specialists to be able to investigate what they are interested in on each dive, so each dive will involve balancing those priorities.
 
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Hello Bridget!

And that's awesome! Yeah, WHOI (Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution) wants $50 per second of 1985/86 footage, which I heard you'd need $1.4 million dollars for 30 minutes.

And that's cool about a hosting website, I remember the original Cyark "Titanic Database Project" that's now defunct. I'm looking forward to the documentary! Do you know if any famous historians like Bill Sauder, Ken Marschall, etc will be there?

thanks for the help, you're a huge help :)
 

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The technology has certainly come far, and I'd say wireless could be possible with AI intelligence showing it's power even on smartphones. The main obstacle here is funding, and the only way I see the funding happening is if the OceanGate Expeditions draw enough attention from their findings to do so. The 2019 images painted a bad picture from what little we saw of the bow, so I dread to think how the interior of the wreck looks now. For now we'll have to sit tight and see how these scans go and how bad of a shape the ship is in to see if it would even be possible or if too much would have collapsed. I've read OceanGate plan to do this annually to document the deterioration of the wreck, so if TV companies want documentaries, ROVs for entering the wreck would be presumably what they'd like, and if there's a curious enough science team who can get a hand of these ROVs, we might just get the last chance to see what's left on these inside areas that we've been unable to get into. I remain hopeful but the chances here are slim, so we can only wait and see.
Actually Cameron stated that the further into the ship he went the level of preservation increased. Like in the Turkish baths you could actually still see a bit of the flooring
 
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