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Message: [QUOTE="L. Marmaduke Collins, post: 87609, member: 141786"] Sam: [i]We know he talks about hearing the hard-starboard order and reversal of engines, yet he says nothing of a hard-aport order being given,[/i] What in the world would be the purpose of a hard-aport order being given after the hard-starboard order and reversal of engines? [i]only Murdoch's explanation to Smith of an intent to port around[/i] Murdock negated his intention to port around when he stopped and/or reversed the engines. [i]Yet he said he thought he saw the mass on the starboard quarter. Can't do that if the ship was in a turn to port.[/i] Of course he could see the mass on the starboard quarter while turning to port when the ship was transiting pack ice. Collins [/QUOTE]