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Message: [QUOTE="Samuel Halpern, post: 87610, member: 137378"] Under your scenario Capt. Collins why would Murdoch even have an intention to do a port around in the first place? What would there be to port around? And of course we must ignore Boxhall, Hichens, and Olliver when they all said that they heard Murdoch's response to Smith's question regarding what they struck. Mr. BOXHALL. He said we had struck an iceberg. Mr. HICHENS. The skipper came rushing out of his room - Capt. Smith - and asked, "What is that?" Mr. Murdoch said, "An iceberg." Mr. OLLIVER. When he first came on the bridge he asked the first officer what was the matter, and Mr. Murdoch reported, sir, that we had struck an iceberg... [/QUOTE]