Punishment for entering the officers' quarters/bridge area?


Aly Jones

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These areas were forbidden to passengers and without an invitation, would men and women received different punishments?

Was there a guide book for the officers, if this situation occurred?
 

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In 1912 who would do this? I don’t think it was a problem anyone worried about because people had the common decency to heed notices about where they were not allowed to go.
 
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Additionally, this was NOT a slave ship, nor a 3rd world commercial freighter. Titanic was a "luxury, passenger-carrying, ocean liner." I'm rather certain that no one was "punished", as you say, for the simple infraction of being in a restricted area. At worst, they were probably politely asked to leave and may even have been escorted away.

Now if there were MULTIPLE infractions, by the SAME person, I'm sure he /she would have been REPRIMANDED and possibly interrogated as to what their intentions were. Afterwhich, base on the severity of the infraction, the Captain probably would have had the trespasser restricted to quarters.
 
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Now if there were MULTIPLE infractions, by the SAME person, I'm sure she would have been REPRIMANDED and possibly interrogated as to what their intentions were. Afterwhich, base on the severity of the infraction, the Captain probably would have had the trespasser restricted to quarters.
Unless she happened to be Catherine-Zeta Jones, of course. ;)
 
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In 1912 who would do this? I don’t think it was a problem anyone worried about because people had the common decency to heed notices about where they were not allowed to go.
Would the same thing apply in restrictions in crossing between classes of passengers ?
In 1912 who would do this ?

Or......I don't think it was a problem anyone worried about was because people had the common decency and common sense to heed notices about where they were not allowed to go and not to do it in the first place ?

In reference to there being no restrictions during visiting hours.:
I think the difference between just visiting a ship in port between the time all the incoming passengers had left the ship and before the outgoing passengers had boarded the ship was that the visitors would be leaving the ship in a few hours anyway and it wouldn't have caused any problems ?
But once the ship was loaded and underway it would have caused problems ?
 
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As far as I recall, I don't think the 'Rose' character went anywhere near the bridge. I have NOT seen the 1996 TV movie Titanic but recall seeing a screen cap where the Jones character is standing on the bridge looking admiringly at George C Scott's Captain Smith :eek: . Those who have sen it, please correct me if I am mistaken.
 

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The senior officers had guns too, and one junior had his own personal gun. They were their for a reason but probably not to be used on a first time offender. Some one had mentioned that they would kindly ask you to leave and escort you out, I can see that happening.
 

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The rule was for the benefit of the officers...not the passengers. It was to dissuade a young fella sneaking a gorgious young thing back to his cabin.

That was better than the officer visiting the gorgeous young thing in her own cabin - that was considered "broaching cargo"...

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Steven and jim,

Was this the case prior from the rules changing- Did this happened on a rugalar basics? the wsl had to engaged and enforce this rule, or did this rule come about due to ships getting bigger in size?
 
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As far as I recall, I don't think the 'Rose' character went anywhere near the bridge. I have NOT seen the 1996 TV movie Titanic but recall seeing a screen cap where the Jones character is standing on the bridge looking admiringly at George C Scott's Captain Smith :eek: . Those who have sen it, please correct me if I am mistaken.
I would have to review the 1997 movie to be sure about it, but I think there was a scene in which Thomas Andrews was leading a group of passengers - "the 'Rose' character " included - in a tour of the ship. At one point, while they were on the Boat Deck, Andrews remarks "Next stop is the bridge." So I don't remember if
"the 'Rose' character went anywhere near the bridge " in THAT movie ? Also correct me,too, if I am mistaken.
This is also the scene in which Rose remarks she had done a little math about the number of lifeboats, etc., to Andrews ?
 

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I would have to review the 1997 movie to be sure about it, but I think there was a scene in which Thomas Andrews was leading a group of passengers - "the 'Rose' character " included - in a tour of the ship. At one point, while they were on the Boat Deck, Andrews remarks "Next stop is the bridge." So I don't remember if
"the 'Rose' character went anywhere near the bridge " in THAT movie ? Also correct me,too, if I am mistaken.
This is also the scene in which Rose remarks she had done a little math about the number of lifeboats, etc., to Andrews ?
In the 1997 movie they do not say the tour was going on the bridge, after the Sunday service they are already on the bridge along with Harold Bride giving an icewarning of the Noordam. While the real Thomas Andrews Jr showed Albert and Vera Dick (two first class Canadian passengers) around the ship, they only went to first classs areas. The bridge of White Star Line vessels was a sanctum if one considers even Mr. Ismay had to ask premision first to enter upon the bridge, he even stated the first time he entered upon it was during the sinking. The only reason Thomas Andrews Jr would have gone to the navigating bridge or even the officers quarters was to talk to the captain if he and his officers had any improvements in mind, such as he and captain Smith talked about with the Olympic in June 1911.
 
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I would have to review the 1997 movie to be sure about it, but I think there was a scene in which Thomas Andrews was leading a group of passengers - "the 'Rose' character " included - in a tour of the ship. At one point, while they were on the Boat Deck, Andrews remarks "Next stop is the bridge." So I don't remember if
"the 'Rose' character went anywhere near the bridge " in THAT movie ? Also correct me,too, if I am mistaken.
This is also the scene in which Rose remarks she had done a little math about the number of lifeboats, etc., to Andrews ?
I am not sure. I only saw the film once (in 1997) and have no wish to see it again, except in the "no jack-no Rose" version on the web.
 

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Probably?
You are right, I don't know in wether they would or wouldn't on first time offenders. But I do know, when awful hits the fan ( titanic sinking ) one officer did stick his gun in people's faces and threatened them . This is fact, not a opinion or a guess. I read titanic valour, the life of officer lowe. That's why I wonder, under normal circumstances (titanic not sinking) if one entered officers personal space, how would they react , etc...
 

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I was watching the documentary 'Titanic Adventure' with James Cameron and Tony Robinson and on their dive to the wreck, they filmed along the bow of Titanic and showed this platform (photo attached).

Does any know if this has a functional use to help carry out a job at the bow or if it's an observation platform for crew or officers?
Much appreciated if anyone can help.
 

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