Question about the deck plans

[Drayeon]

In the front and back of the ship there are areas where there is a dotted line and a solid line. It's not in the middle of the ship. Is the dotted line the floor and the solid the roof? Also is the double line the thickness of the hull?

Thanks for any responses.

 

[Nikos]

Hi all,

Bumping this old post as I am wondering the same. My assumption is that the above is true, however it would be great to get clarification.

Thanks.

 

[Bob_Read]

Nikos: In order to get an answer to your question you would need to post an image of the plan where these lines appear and indicate which lines you are referring to.

 

[Nikos]

Apologies! That's some important context I'm missing.
Referring to the deck plans on this site (i.e. encyclopedia-titanica.org).
e.g. in this image of F deck, you see a dashed and a solid line emanating from the bow.

https://imgur.com/IU7MPdF

The solid line appears to actually be two lines that separate. My assumption is that the dashed line indicates the hull at floor level and the solid lines are at ceiling level? The distance between the two solid lines depicts the width of the steel?

 

[Bob_Read]

Hi Nikos: The first thing you have to keep in mind is that these are general arrangement plans whose purpose is to show the layout of rooms and equipment on the various decks. They are not precision structural plans which were used to actually build the ship. With that being said, you are right that the dashed line indicates the extent of the deck being shown. The inner solid line would be the "ceiling" or more accurately the deck above the deck being shown. The outer solid line represents hull frame thickness between it and the inboard solid line.

 

[David G. Brown]

Flam and flare. They are effectively waterlines struck used by naval architects to show the changing shape of the hull. Builder's plans are quite detailed in order for the shop to loft the proper shape and the builders erect it on the stocks. Waterlines show effectively the shape of the deck as if the hull were sliced parallel to the water. Buttocks show the side view of the shape, while the transverse view shows the hull as if sliced vertically. Any given point on the outside of the hull must measure the same on all three views.

The process of using lines drawings to loft out a hull is explained rather well in the book "Lofting" by Alain Vaitses. Although he is most concerned with small yacht-size vessels, the concepts for building Titanic were the same.

-- David G. Brown


Lofting
by Allan H. Vaitses | Sep 1, 1999

 

[Bob_Read]

Hi David: What Nikos is asking about isn't waterlines. Waterlines are parallel to the keel baseline. These lines in this G/A plan view indicate the width of the deck at any point fore and aft. Since the deck follows the sheer, these aren't really waterlines.

 

[David G. Brown]

Bob --
I know they aren't waterlines, but that's the simplest way I could find to explain it. I've lofted and built a variety of watercraft, so I've used lines drawings. Never saw exactly what is shown on the deck plans before -- but they do resemble waterlines, so I used the term. Not many people need to know the niceties of the system, just the concept. For instance, we don't need to get into the projected skin thickness, etc.

- David G. Brown

 

[Bob_Read]

Hi David: I understand what you’re getting at.
Regards
Bob Read

 

[Nikos]

Appreciate the detailed responses! David, your example worked well from my point of view.

 

[Jane Smith]

Is it just me or do the decks for A-G Deck not work? Or does it work on a computer?

 

[Bob_Read]

Jane: what do you mean by “not work”?

 

[Jane Smith]

Jane: what do you mean by “not work”?

I'm trying to say that they don't load and just leaves you with a blank screen.
Edit: nevermind, dont respond to this

 

[Jane Smith]

Jane: what do you mean by “not work”?

I’m getting a blank screen when it comes to the deck plans for A-G Deck. The profile, Boat Deck, Orlop, and Tank Top plans work perfectly fine

 

[Bob_Read]

Are you talking about the deck plans here on the Encyclopedia Titanica site here: Titanic Deckplans
I tried them and was able to view every deck. At the top of the page is a button where you can download the plans. Try downloading then and see if you can open the file and view all of it.

 

[Ioannis Georgiou]

Are you talking about the deck plans here on the Encyclopedia Titanica site here: Titanic Deckplans
I tried them and was able to view every deck. At the top of the page is a button where you can download the plans. Try downloading then and see if you can open the file and view all of it.

I had and still have similar problems. When I wanted to look something up a few days ago not all decks were showing up. Also here in the forum, I see there are new messages but when having a look it show only old ones and not what was posted today.

 

[Bob_Read]

Ioannis: Are you able to download the plans and view them?

 

[Ioannis Georgiou]

In the meantime yes. Only a few problems with the forum.

 

[Seumas]

I had and still have similar problems. When I wanted to look something up a few days ago not all decks were showing up. Also here in the forum, I see there are new messages but when having a look it show only old ones and not what was posted today.

I'm getting that problem too.

 

[Samuel Halpern]

Same here.